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Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
    #4662154 - 09/14/05 10:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The most underrated, underappreciate of all of Smashing Pumpkins' albums, I think its detractors are missing out on something important. Yes, it's not as out-and-out rockin' as other SP albums, yes it's got some weaker songs somewhere in the mix, but when it comes down to it you can't find Billy Corgan's soul more open anywhere else. His sadness hits me far harder than his anger ever did...

Lately I just can't seem to believe
Discard my friends to change the scenery
It meant the world to hold a bruising faith
But now it's just a matter of grace


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4662163 - 09/14/05 10:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Adore is good, but their underappreciated album is definitely Pisces Iscariot. :bongload:


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4662167 - 09/14/05 10:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I wish I had it, I like a lot of the songs on it, I enjoy almost all of Smashing Pumpkins music.. some of thier songs are strange, but I can say that about some songs from The Beatles as well.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: demiu5]
    #4662168 - 09/14/05 10:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm...good point.


But I like Adore more. :smile:


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Skunk420]
    #4662174 - 09/14/05 10:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That's why I think the Pumpkins are so cool, skunk, like the BEatles they never put themselves in a corner, they always innovated.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4662202 - 09/14/05 10:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

but I think the Beatles influenced so many bands anyway, but yes I wish I had all thier music..Pumkins are so cool... but i am listening to some songs from thr band 311 right now...I am listening to Paradise. but they just got a new one out last month.. check it out.. http://www.311.com...another great band..


Edited by skunk78395 (09/14/05 10:32 PM)


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Skunk420]
    #4688751 - 09/21/05 02:10 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I LOVE ADORE!!!!
A LOT OF MEMORIES!!


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: jermspfan]
    #4688840 - 09/21/05 02:34 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I want to turn you on
I want to turn you round
I want to turn you on
I want to turn you

One of the best pop verses ever.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4688984 - 09/21/05 03:10 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i think i remember not liking this one as much. but the other albums i like a lot.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Locus]
    #4689022 - 09/21/05 03:24 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

if you have to think about maybe remembering if you liked it or not, maybe you should give it another listen, with an open mind?

this album got no play, no respect and no poopykins.

in fact, ive never listened to it.

i own every album up to it, and then i almost figured no other albums were neccessary.

shame on me.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4689622 - 09/21/05 11:45 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i own an obscene amount of music recorded by the pumpkins and i love it all. i have an unhealthy obsession. they are the best band ever. and adore is amazing. it's somewhat similar to corgan's new solo cd that just came out in june. get it.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: demiu5]
    #4689625 - 09/21/05 11:46 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

demius said:
Adore is good, but their underappreciated album is definitely Pisces Iscariot. :bongload:



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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Silversoul]
    #4689639 - 09/21/05 11:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

pisces is great, but still more popular than adore was..adore was very much underrated. the only reason it suffered was that it lacked chamberlain's percussive creativity. the songs themselves prove corgan's genius as a songwriter, but i think he needs jimmy around too.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Hendostan]
    #4689644 - 09/21/05 11:52 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Used to be a HUGE Pumpkins fan. Still love 'em, just not the way I used to. I personally think Adore has some amazing song writing, but unfortunately Billy wanted to be too "electronica" which detracts from the intimate feeling of the album. At least for me. The live versions of the songs which are too electronica end up being allowed to breathe more.

Still, the songs off Adore which retain that intimate feeling are really moving. Songs like To Sheila, Pug, and probably the best of all, For Martha.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Hendostan]
    #4689648 - 09/21/05 11:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I dunno. There were some good songs on Adore, but it just didn't keep my interest the whole way through the way that Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie did.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Silversoul]
    #4689652 - 09/21/05 11:55 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i agree. it's a beautiful cd, but...i just don't crave it as much. if i could have only one cd the rest of my life, it would be mellon collie.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Hendostan]
    #4689804 - 09/21/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i caught the tail end of this thread...
let me say that I'm a PumpkinHead...
Pisces Iscariot is just a collection of B-sides. No doubt it's a great listen but I wouldn't call it their "underappreciated album", oh, and Gish is my favorite.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Todcasil]
    #4689840 - 09/21/05 01:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

you're right... and since it's pretty old my taste in music at that time may not have developed into the very open minded and various styles of music ranging all over the board that it is today. i suppose i could check it out again :smile: :thumbup:


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: Hendostan]
    #4691486 - 09/21/05 08:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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it lacked chamberlain's percussive creativity. the songs themselves prove corgan's genius as a songwriter, but i think he needs jimmy around too.




Fer sure! The next two albums, Machina and Machina 2, get back in the groove cuz Jimmy's back on board. It's still a great album, just maybe not as rock and roll as their earlier work. It's a lot more introspective and personal. Definitely some great songs and great lyrics. And I've heard a show from this tour and those songs sounded awesome live. I love the Pumpkins!

Robot - I like what you said about his sadness on this album versus the anger on his earlier ones. Lots of folks connected with the angst of Mellon Collie - like me :evil:- but Adore is a quiet album that takes repeated listenings to appreciate.


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Re: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4694011 - 09/22/05 07:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Adore was the pumpkin's downfall. Machina just sealed the deal.

The greatest SP album of all time is mellon collie and the infinte sadness. Then Pisces Iscariot, Siamese Dream, and Gish.

Adore had maybe two or three songs I could tolerate, the rest was garbage.

My fave song off Adore is annie-dog.

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