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P. Subaeruginascens in NY?
    #4661008 - 09/14/05 06:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I just read an article in my local mycological society newsletter in which psilocybe subaeruginosa or something very similar was found in woodchips somewhere in southern new york state. They mention the "collyboid cap... blue staining...cellular cap cuticle structure, size and shape of pleurocystidia and cheilocystidia..." and the stems and caps stained blue!!!!! They mention that they have only been reported in japan india and java.
So, what do you think (especially you experts out there)? Is it possible that the woodchips were imported from one of these exotic locals? Did someone toss some spores into the woodchips? this seems unlikely since I've never heard of anyone even possessing any of these in the US. Maybe they've been here all along and nobody's foudn them before. Who knows!


Edited by nycomyco (09/18/05 11:13 AM)


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Re: P. Subaeruginosa in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4661014 - 09/14/05 06:02 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, and they were found in mid-june


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Re: P. Subaeruginosa in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4664313 - 09/15/05 12:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

bumpity-bump.. MJ? Toxic? Gumby?


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Re: P. Subaeruginosa in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4673673 - 09/17/05 12:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: P. Subaeruginosa in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4673761 - 09/17/05 01:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

too bad for no replys


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Re: P. Subaeruginosa in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4673869 - 09/17/05 01:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well according to Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World, Psilocybe subaeruginosa is known only from Australia and Tasmania. So i dont know why they would say they are also from Japan, India and Java.

It would help if you typed out the whole article


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Re: P. Subaeruginosa in NY? [Re: Gwize]
    #4673874 - 09/17/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

interesting, can you post the article?

I doubt it was actually subaeruginosa, reason being the fact it fruited during the summer... P. caerulipes or something similar seems more likely to me.

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Re: P. Subaeruginosa in NY? [Re: spores]
    #4675059 - 09/17/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, P. subaeruginosa only grows in Australia and NZ pretty much. It could have been Ps.cyanescens....although again those are autumn fruiters.

And I doubt that anyone actually imports woodchip into the US from the southern hemisphere...


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Re: P. Subaeruginascens in NY? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4677090 - 09/18/05 11:13 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Wow- I'm an idiot. Rereading the article I realize that it's p. subaeruginascens NOT subaeruginosa.

Here are all of the pertinent parts of the article. I avoided information regarding locations and names yada yada. Keep in mind that this is from a local myco club newsletter, so it's readership consists of people who are mostly interested in collecting edibles.

"Other interesting collectibles were found in the many wood chips... Of particular interest were the psilocybes that we collected there. We found a surprising variation in collections with regard to size and even more so regarding colors. In fact I thought that I had collected two different mushroom genera, one of them naematolomas.
Most of them had brownish caps with darker disks but some of them- mostly the young ones- had greenish blue caps and some even had bluish shiny stems. Wtih dark purplish brown spores we knew were in teh Strophariaceae family.
Looking at field characteristics (collyboid cap shape, annulate, umbonate cap, blue staining, somewhat viscid but highly hygrophanous cap that quicly fades in color with age) and sweveral microscopic characteristics such as the cap cuticle structure which is cellular, spore size and shape, as well as the size and shape of the pleurocystidia and cheilocystidia (steril projecting cells on the gill faces and edges respectively) it appears that me have found psilocybe subaeruginascens or something very close to it. Mr. N apparently has also found the same mushroom on a ... walk in late June. One problem is that the above named mushroom has only been reported from southern Japan, southern India, and Java!
...Mr. T also keyed it out in Guzman's psilocybe monograph. He is planning on including samples of the two above collections in some future DNA analysis. If we get more information I'll let you know."


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Re: P. Subaeruginascens in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4687524 - 09/20/05 09:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

bump. I'd really like to hear from someone.


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Re: P. Subaeruginascens in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4688083 - 09/20/05 11:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like P. subaeruginascens and P. caerulipes have a lot in common.


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Re: P. Subaeruginascens in NY? [Re: falcon]
    #4688486 - 09/21/05 01:08 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting. Unfortunately, the picture they supplied was of subaeruginascens that can be found on the internet with obvious veil and mycelial remnants on the edge of the cap. It would be interesting to compare the actual specimens with the caerulipes you found last year. If they turn out to be caerulipes, they might have a fall season too, then, huh?


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Re: P. Subaeruginascens in NY? [Re: nycomyco]
    #4691202 - 09/21/05 06:59 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Might have a fall season whichever species it is.


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