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The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions
    #4657370 - 09/14/05 12:19 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

So I see the substrate as Hardwood chips and sawdust, hardwood logs. So does this grow on alder chips or what? Alder chips are hardwood. So how do u prepare the hardwood, soak in water and sterilize? I have bags and a impulse sealer so I can make my own substrate.


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4657400 - 09/14/05 12:26 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

For spawn generation, use sawdust or enriched sawdust and for fruiting use either a sawdust brick or wood chips. And yes, you just soak the wood in the water, put it in bags. I recommend adding bran (for nitrogen) and verm (for moisture retention), but whatever you want. Then sterilize. The moisture content should be around 74%. This is higher than moisture for grains, but lower than moisture for poo as a reference. I am having trouble getting sawdust and woodchips for my lion's mane to be honest. I am almost out. Any ideas?


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: dumbsnake34]
    #4657424 - 09/14/05 12:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I always like to find local sources. I use craigslist useful in the USA to find other people who sell wood or whatever. Wood chips can be had at the BBQ Stores in USA too, prices aint that bad either. Sawdust is sorta a pina unless u live by a mill or something. I guess u can buy sawdust from a mill or something?


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4670584 - 09/16/05 06:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ok so I found some guy who is going get me some oak, which is prefered for Lions Mane. I have some alder chips I might just use my sandpaper grinder to make sawdust? I have no idea how to make sawdust besides using a drill, saw, or sander.


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4670616 - 09/16/05 06:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hey I also found a local mill that gives away free sawdust! So I am really in luck and am going to grow a martha full of these haha.


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: dumbsnake34]
    #4671483 - 09/16/05 10:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Landscapers if they cut trees will give or sell chips ussually. If they give they are looking to unload a lot.

Some pellet fuel turns into coarse sawdust when it's soaked. The stuff i used did, I think some of it is fine chips.


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: dumbsnake34]
    #4674318 - 09/17/05 04:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

sawdust spawn blows use grain. Its weak and slow compared to grain. Use a sawdust bran mix and a bit of lime if you feel like it.


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4682506 - 09/19/05 05:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I use birch chips, with coir to fill in the gaps rather than sawdust. In fact, I've fruited lion's mane on straight coir. If it were cheaper, it would make an excellent substrate for wood lovers. Reishi also fruits well on it.
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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4683004 - 09/19/05 07:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

lol coco coir huh? I guess it is a wood fiber wow. I going get that free sawdust soon. I was just going to grow bulk lions mane.... and see if I could unload some at the farmers market or something. It is rather rare of fungi so that would be a good place for it.


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4689687 - 09/21/05 12:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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sawdust spawn blows use grain.  Its weak and slow compared to grain.  Use a sawdust bran mix and a bit of lime if you feel like it.




2nd that, I have had grain spawn outrun sawdust hands down.  I have experimented with wbs and just plain black sunflower seeds, both have done good    :stoned:


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: sleepingbigguy]
    #4689691 - 09/21/05 12:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well grain it is, good thing since I have tons of grain. What about fruiting on wood, isn't that prefered to grain or is grain all the way good? I guess I will just fruit on grain with some wood.


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4694771 - 09/22/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i haven't fruited my lions mane yet but, i have my shiitake and my ling zi is in the process. water/woodpellets 1.25/1 roughly, i had to adjust it a little, you have to be your own judge but make sure it is field grade, or a little drier.  boiled half the water placed in cooler with wood pellets to pasturize.  covered other .5 of water let cool to room temp.  hydrogen peroxide in a ratio of (1 to 10)was addded to cooled water before it was placed in cooler of pasturizing sawdust which was now cool.  everything was mixed thouroughly with spawn 1 qt to 2 gallons sawdust.  no problems with contam when i got moisture content right.  I will post pics of my fruiting shiitake soon and reishi when it fruits.  from what i read lions mane does best on wood, it takes a while to break down the material but i think the results will be best on wood.  it also can fruit from straw but with less than stellar results i'm told.

thats all i got for ya hope it helps :grin:


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: sleepingbigguy]
    #4695618 - 09/22/05 04:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

just interjecting that i've had good results with mixed hardwood sawdust and dougfir logs


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Re: The Lion’s Mane, Hericium erinaceus Substrate Questions [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4945201 - 11/17/05 05:16 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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sawdust spawn blows use grain. Its weak and slow compared to grain. Use a sawdust bran mix and a bit of lime if you feel like it.




Wrong. Sawdust spawn may seem to inhibit development, but the wait is worth the while. The reason sawdust takes longer, a seemingly "worse" substrate, as you point out, is because it takes longer for the mycelium to devour the material. Because there is more food for the mycelia, it takes longer for it to colonize, but in return builds a stronger network, with more potential to produce larger fruitbodies.
You can read about it in Stamets' "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms: 3rd Edition"

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