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What are visuals, why?
    #4656814 - 09/13/05 10:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Id like to see what others think about audio/visual effects and where they come from and why they are much more intense for some people.....


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4656845 - 09/13/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

No need for opinions. Do some searching and you'll find some information. I believe it's fairly well-researched.

Here's a little excerpt from Wikipedia:

"LSD affects a huge number of receptors, including all dopamine receptor subtypes, all adrenoreceptor subtypes as well as many others. LSD binds to most serotonin receptor subtypes except for 5-HT3 and 5-HT4. The hallucinogenic effects of LSD are attributed to its partial agonist effects at 5-HT2A receptors. Exactly how this produces the drug's effects is unknown, but it is thought that it works by increasing excitation in cortical layers which facilitate the spread of information throughout the cortex. Through this, LSD causes parts of the brain which would not normally be activated by a given stimulus to become engaged."

With some looking, you can find a lot more in-depth material than this.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4656849 - 09/13/05 10:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

the nature of psychedelic drugs is to change the way our brains process stimuli as well as to change the "filter settings". there fore we perceive everyday reality in a completely different way. so where walls would usually be rigid structures they now breath and sway. thats my take on it.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4656853 - 09/13/05 10:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I think they come from the dark areas of your mind. One
of mine, that keeps popping up tripping, is I think I can see,
and can talk to ghosts. A couple of weeks ago, I had too keep
looking down, at my hands because I was sure I had killed a friend,
and had blood all over me, and the whole house turned into a haunted
house, with cobwebs, witches, and demons, I think because I had been thinking about Halloween coming up in a few weeks.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: rod]
    #4656927 - 09/13/05 10:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I think that what happens is that psychedelics let way more information in to the point of overload so you start seeing and hearing in so much detail your brain starts to feed back on itself. Also the inhibiting of seratonin receptors creates a waking dream state, so maybe the higher the seratonin blocking the less senses are teathered to external reality and the more the become independent of the outside world like in a dream.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #4656985 - 09/13/05 10:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Good speculations.
I don't know how the visuals are created, but i can say with some certainty that the other senses are effected as a direct result of the visual distortion. I am someone who normally feels like sight is the greatest sense. But when i trip, i feel like my eyes are inferior to other sensing organs, particularly my ears (the same way that a blind person acquires acute hearing). I think that the brain realizes the visual distortions given by psychedelics for what they are, and knows that the person's vision has been compromised, and therefore strengthens the other senses.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #4657205 - 09/13/05 11:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

jabberhole, or 1st guy, that reaction was hilarious. Are you usually so ridiculous. This shit is theory. so putz around as you might, you still dont see the fact that I was just trying to go further into it than that. Your neural receptor crap is redundant. Your just the uninteresting guy I thought id run into if I posted this. Science is a bitch


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657215 - 09/13/05 11:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Why the order to the feedback????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????. BETTER THAN ANY ARTIst COULD RENDER.?????????????????????????????? dUR.
YOU ARE BLESSED WITH THE INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THIS OBVIOUSE PRECURSOR TO THE ANSWER JABBERHOLE,WAYA.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657219 - 09/13/05 11:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

BY THE WAY, ACID AINT THE BEST REFERENCE POINT FOR OBVIOUSE REASONS


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657236 - 09/13/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

What do I think??? this chat doesnt work with such elongated conclusions cause you are then rejected as a message poster given the time it takes.
Im glad some are not willing to admit that they know the answer.
Those people have seen more of the phenom.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657245 - 09/13/05 11:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

But atleast id give the unknown a try, if someone asked me


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657258 - 09/13/05 11:49 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

:bottledup:


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657265 - 09/13/05 11:50 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

wow, you need to lay off the freebase man


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: eVil_]
    #4657399 - 09/14/05 12:26 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, its been less than insightful. Thanks peeps


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657402 - 09/14/05 12:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

dreamy, ya......visuals are cool, totally


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657406 - 09/14/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Evil is obviously a smart kid


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657407 - 09/14/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

For gods sake


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4657408 - 09/14/05 12:29 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Freebase is for kids


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4658191 - 09/14/05 04:08 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

MODERATOR NOTICE: Stemmer - you're fresh off the ban and you keep on continuing a behavior known as "postwhoring", as well as being rude to the people who choose to respond to your thread. If you keep this up you will either be ignored by most people or you get banned for consistently breaking the rules. Please behave. This is yet another warning.


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Re: What are visuals, why? [Re: stemmer]
    #4658688 - 09/14/05 09:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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jabberhole, or 1st guy, that reaction was hilarious. Are you usually so ridiculous. This shit is theory. so putz around as you might, you still dont see the fact that I was just trying to go further into it than that. Your neural receptor crap is redundant. Your just the uninteresting guy I thought id run into if I posted this. Science is a bitch




You asked a question and he gave you a good answer. Threes certainly no need to criticize him for giving you an educated answer now is there?


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