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Offlinehardwaters
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3rd and 4th flushes
    #4656480 - 09/13/05 08:27 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Why are the fruits of my 3rd and 4th flushes much larger than those of my 1st and 2nd flushes? I am not doing anything differently than I did to get them to pin the first time around.


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: hardwaters]
    #4656495 - 09/13/05 08:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Ive also noticed that my 2nd flush of Shrooms are/were bigger than the 1st.


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: dopeheaddave]
    #4656634 - 09/13/05 09:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Ah yes the courtesy flushes. Nice, aren't they? Mine do the same thing. Tis normal. I usually print my couresy flushes.


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: deficitism]
    #4656703 - 09/13/05 09:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

This is because you have less shroom, and more nutrient available for each shroom so they grow bigger


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: wise_gardener]
    #4657313 - 09/14/05 12:05 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I think it is a pinning issue- less pins=less shrooms= more energy for each shroom. I like it but you could maybe get more pins by dunking and then ruffling up the casing layer. Even adding a little new casing- but contam risk rises. I've used clean brushes with large round plastic bristles that are spaced far apart. I push them in like a quarter of the way in the layer and do it in a standard way across the layer. I think I got the idea from one of stamets books. Anyway, im no expert but I think it works.


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: LynxRufus]
    #4657328 - 09/14/05 12:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Thats if you don't like it- but whats not to like about huge monsters???  :smile:


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: wise_gardener]
    #4658568 - 09/14/05 08:02 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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wise_gardener said:
This is because you have less shroom, and more nutrient available for each shroom so they grow bigger



Exactly!


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: hyphae]
    #4658577 - 09/14/05 08:07 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Not quite right in my case... Ill give you an example.
Flush 1 - Cake 1 - 4-6 mushrooms about 40grams wet
Flush 2 - Cake 1 - 10-15 Mushrooms (still growing)
(maybe more shrooms less weight for these ones)
and thats like it for 3 cakes!

what I also noticed is on my 1st flush the pins were growing from the top of the cake.
2nd flush. Pins growing everywhere - top bottom - sides


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Re: 3rd and 4th flushes [Re: dopeheaddave]
    #4658620 - 09/14/05 08:42 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Often second flushes are larger than the first. The reason for this is totally the result of the pinset. Fruitbodies compete for a given amount of nutes, your most prolific pins mature early on in the first couple of flushes most often. There are alot of variables in the mycoworld but overall this competion for nutes holds true. GL


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