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OfflineShroomArtist84
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What the hell is happening......
    #4656035 - 09/13/05 06:48 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Its been 3 weeks and 3 days.
I'm awaiting small amounts of the substrate to be consumed.
There being stored in a 85degree box with a lid right now.
Any suggestions to make the myc colonize completely?

I turned them upside down, now it seems the space between the cake and the bottom of the jar (see Link 3) is causing humidity in the jar and making small water dripplets fall on the cake, is this bad?

Check out the pics.

Pic 1

Pic 2

Pic 3 - space causing humidity.

Pic 4 - Jars awaiting colonization.....WTF!


There all smaller then dime sized at the bottoms awaiting consumption.

Any suggestions would help.........


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Re: What the hell is happening...... [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4656046 - 09/13/05 06:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

How long ago did they stall?


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Re: What the hell is happening...... [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4656058 - 09/13/05 06:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Jar 3 looks contaminated with bacteria, most likely due to having the temperature too hot. Can't tell from the other pictures, but you should not go over 80 in your growing environment. If your box is at 85, the inside of your jars is 90+ and that has stimulated bacterial contaminants over the mushroom mycelium.
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Re: What the hell is happening...... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4656323 - 09/13/05 07:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yes lower temp to about 81 degrees, Im surprised they came that far.


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Re: What the hell is happening...... [Re: djsage420]
    #4656345 - 09/13/05 07:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Seriously, at that point if it takes too long, then fruit it but not before steralizing the uncolonized part with a searing hot pocket knife or something.
If your fruiting cakes by themselves, the oxygen and humidity provided in the fruiting chamber will be enough for the scoarched part to be colonized quite fast. If your caseing, and want to pop-em out of the jars now then discard the uncolonized portion.
Oxygen depletion = no more growth within the jars. Though the upsidedown method seems to work ok


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Re: What the hell is happening...... [Re: stemmer]
    #4656375 - 09/13/05 08:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

25-30% of all cakes ive fruited had a little spot without any myc.(for a long time before I took action)
So if you fruiting cakes without caseing and you think they have been in the jars for too long your probably right.
Also when this happens, it takes longer for them to pin once you pop-em out. They need more time to establish a cohesive colony of myc. The hot pocket knife works like a charm unless they are already contaminated


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Re: What the hell is happening...... [Re: stemmer]
    #4656386 - 09/13/05 08:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and water drips are no to worry about in the upside down cakes, If they make no progress take my advise. There is no more humidity in the jar than you put there yourself.


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Re: What the hell is happening...... [Re: stemmer]
    #4656395 - 09/13/05 08:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

spaceman said:
How long ago did they stall?




about 4 days ago now.

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Jar 3 looks contaminated with bacteria, most likely due to having the temperature too hot. Can't tell from the other pictures, but you should not go over 80 in your growing environment. If your box is at 85, the inside of your jars is 90+ and that has stimulated bacterial contaminants over the mushroom mycelium.
RR




no there is no bacteria, i can tell i'm pretty sure.
thanks for the advice on the tempature though, that was very much needed.


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stemmer said:
Seriously, at that point if it takes too long, then fruit it but not before steralizing the uncolonized part with a searing hot pocket knife or something.
If your fruiting cakes by themselves, the oxygen and humidity provided in the fruiting chamber will be enough for the scoarched part to be colonized quite fast. If your caseing, and want to pop-em out of the jars now then discard the uncolonized portion.
Oxygen depletion = no more growth within the jars. Though the upsidedown method seems to work ok




i will attempt to try that stemmer......thanks for the information. so i guess ill just sterlize the non colonized part and see how it rolls and also case some.

thanks for the info also in regards to the tempature, thanks guys!!


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