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OfflineAbsolut
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Hippie Tek colonization question
    #465483 - 11/21/01 11:50 AM (15 years, 21 days ago)

I'm about to attempt to follow a PF Tek modified by 'Hippie', called the Hippie Tek, but I need to get something clarified first. After my substrate is made and I inject it with the sporesyringe, do I immediately place it in a warm lit(24/7) environment and not mess with it until it's colonized? or do I let it colonize in the dark and THEN place it in a warm lit(24/7) environment until actual psilly's are seen? Please to help...


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Absolut]
    #465505 - 11/21/01 12:12 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

let it get light from the very start.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Hippie3]
    #465512 - 11/21/01 12:17 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

throughout the entire process? Will this process take longer then the other ones?
Thank you Hippie for replying to me. (I tried to e-mail you...didn't work)


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Absolut]
    #465521 - 11/21/01 12:22 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

i have always found that they colonize faster in the dark


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: mystic1]
    #465546 - 11/21/01 12:59 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

yeah i agree with the dark. plus it will help them pin if its been dark and when you birth them they get light all of a sudden. its an extra kick to form pins. actually best case scenerio would be to birth them in a terrarium and keep that in the dark for a few days then give it light.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Absolut]
    #465592 - 11/21/01 02:22 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

If Hippie says give them light, give them light.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: puscle]
    #465651 - 11/21/01 03:38 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

my current email is hippie3@hushmail.com

if you want invitro, then light from the beginning is best.
they absolutely do not colonize any faster in the dark,
that is false information.
but if you do give light from the first few days on,
then you'll have fruit beginning just after the cake finishes colonizing, usually in around 26-28 days from inoculation.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Hippie3]
    #465658 - 11/21/01 03:46 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

i was just speaking from my experience they did grow faster for my friend but who knows what it was. he had two in the dark and two in the light. inculated at the same time everything was the same mix. the two that were in the dark had pinned faster. but that just him. its not false information it a matter of my opinion


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: mystic1]
    #466388 - 11/22/01 06:34 AM (15 years, 20 days ago)

i disagree, and i've done alot more than 2 cakes to know.
and i'm not the only one who's tested this.
light or dark, they colonize at the same rate.
but they pin faster in light.
simple fact,
not a friend of a friend's story.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Hippie3]
    #660303 - 06/03/02 10:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Im by no means even close to being advanced at mushroom cultivation, im actualy on my first try, but i belive in reading and doing massive research on something before going at it, and from reading many many different teks and opinions on these boards, putting it all together i would have to agree with BeppoMarx on this, what causes the pins are 3 things, more O2, light and a drop in temp. So i would say right when your cake seems to be fully colonized, give it indirect sun light for like 20 minutes each day, all that should be needed on the light front. if you see no pins after like 5 days i would say birth the sucker into a terrarium with lower temp than what the cake had while in the jars and give it good fanning a few times a day to supply the O2, and keep giving it that light. Some say artificial light is fine, but your not going to be able to beat out mother nature, unless its cloudy, but hell, mushrooms are going to have to deal with that in the nature too, some UV rays should still get through clouds anyways, anyone know exactly what part of the spectrum the mushrooms react to?


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: _Lucid_]
    #661723 - 06/04/02 04:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

there really isn't much point in taking advice from people with no real experience.
i invented the damn invitro 'hippie' tek,
i think i damn well know how it works.
it would be a stupid waste of time to wait for full colonization before exposing invitro jars to light,
my way they begin to pin much faster.
there is no advantage to waiting at all,
and light does not slow growth,
newbie's opinions aside.
so listen to me,
expose invitro to light from the start, and even the toughest strains will be fruiting 30 days after inoculation.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Hippie3]
    #661777 - 06/04/02 05:39 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

>there really isn't much point in taking advice from people with no real experience.

Ive never been in space, but i think you may want to take my advice in not going out the airlock without a suit on, but then again ive never done it so i must not know what im talking about.

>newbie's opinions aside.

Well, none of it is my opinion, like i said im on my first trial, i dont have enough experience to make opinions, its those who have done it a bunch of times who are bias with opinions, everything you get from me is an occumilation of other people's ideas, including hippie3, he has posted a lot of very helpful info, and maybe he is right, all i was saying in my post is taking everything i have read here, and putting it together on what seems to work the best for everyone all around that would be the best way to do it. You can give the mushrooms full light if you wish, but what you are trying to similate here is mushroom growth in the wild, simulate the triggers that cause pins to form, and the shock with the light O2 and temp all help together at once to start pinning. in nature say they are growing on some dung, once the thing is colonized at the surface it starts to get more O2 light and it becomes a bit colder outside the dung than inside, so those trigger it to pin. *shrug*. I do think on my next batch i will do a half in light and half in darkness. Its going to be difficult to give them a lot of light, but a few hours a day sure. the whole thing with psilocybe cubensis is they do not use photosynthesise like plants do to grow, but are photosensitive, they use light to tell them when to pin and what way to grow
here is a similar thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=652220&Forum=All_Forums&Words=light%20photo&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=1week&Main=652202&Search=true#Post652220


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: Hippie3]
    #21319121 - 02/23/15 08:03 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)



Okay hippie. My last grow was 6 creeper 1/2 pint jars. This method of yours proved successful without really knowing that by checking my jars and exposing them to light they would pin intro.. pf tek/Hippy tek. My question is now... should i add more verm to these one (left) Cambodian and two(right) south Americans for shrinkige and contam purposes.. and also expose to light at this stage in colonization?



By the way these jars were made w/o a pressure cooker.. Roadkills 90 minite steam in pot..not touching boiling water! sterlized for 90 min and let cool

2Cup verm
1 cup H2o
#Mix#
1 cup brf

Sub In jars. With a quarter inch on inside top.  wiped with paper towel
Quarter inch dry verm for space
And Micropore waterproof tape on top,
To cover 4 innoc.. points on lid.
Easy tek
For those concerned.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: beatone]
    #21319440 - 02/23/15 09:28 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

That thread was almost 13 years old man


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: mushpunx]
    #21319456 - 02/23/15 09:31 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

To be fair, searching this site when you are new is absolute hell.

So much outdated/ancient stuff in the search bar unless you are careful.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: RideAllBears]
    #21319467 - 02/23/15 09:34 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Doesn't it warn you about how old the thread is before you post?


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: RideAllBears]
    #21319492 - 02/23/15 09:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

After they are fully colonized, wait a week while they consolodate. Then, remove from jars, rinse, soak in water for 24 hours, rinse again and roll in vermiculite. That's the only time you'll be adding more vermiculite.

Consider yourself lucky if that upside down jar doesn't contaminate.


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #21320405 - 02/24/15 12:36 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Thanks guys. Guess these achieves really are ancient. Could've looked further into it. Thanks for the help again. Shoot i hope it doesn't contam!


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Re: Hippie Tek colonization question [Re: beatone]
    #21321664 - 02/24/15 10:33 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Thanks guys. Guess these achieves really are ancient. Could've looked further into it. Thanks for the help again. Shoot i hope it doesn't contam!




Hey man you might want to look at some more up to date t eks too. Pf tek hasnt changed so much as the info that goes with it

What sort of fruiting chamber are you planning on using? Look up shot gun fruiting chamber if you haven't


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