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OfflineSchwip
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Dopamine
    #4653921 - 09/13/05 07:10 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

any one watch this? it was on the sundance channel i think(ON Demand also if you got it)

interesting movie about the chemicals in our brains vs. emotions.....


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Re: Dopamine [Re: Schwip]
    #4654560 - 09/13/05 01:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

But chemicals in our brain effect our emotions. So how could it be a vs. thing.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: Worldbridger]
    #4654582 - 09/13/05 01:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i wonder if you could get pure dopamine and smoke it or snort it or something...


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Re: Dopamine [Re: AliceDee]
    #4654592 - 09/13/05 01:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Try heroin, it'll give you what you're looking for.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: AliceDee]
    #4654598 - 09/13/05 01:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Dopamine [Re: FL_accciD]
    #4654645 - 09/13/05 01:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Dopamine cannot penetrate the blood brain barrier. Therefore you couldn't "take dopamine".


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: Dopamine [Re: badchad]
    #4654679 - 09/13/05 01:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

To increase the amount of dopamine in the brain of patients with diseases such as Parkinson's disease, a synthetic precursor to dopamine such as L-DOPA can be given, since this will cross the blood-brain barrier.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: AliceDee]
    #4654685 - 09/13/05 01:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It won't fuck you up though, just shoot up some heroin.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4654686 - 09/13/05 01:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Or smoke some crack/do a few lines.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4654695 - 09/13/05 01:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ive done all that before and dont want drugs in my system, i want natural stuff like dopamine..


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Re: Dopamine [Re: AliceDee]
    #4654702 - 09/13/05 01:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Your brain will take care of that then :yesnod:


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Re: Dopamine [Re: AliceDee]
    #4654708 - 09/13/05 01:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Opium is natural.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4654723 - 09/13/05 01:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I hear you guys have some of the shittiest heroin in the country out there in Cali. Sucks to be you.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4654729 - 09/13/05 01:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It must get cut a lot as it makes its way from my area to the west coast :yesnod:


Edited by Booooom (09/13/05 01:50 PM)


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Re: Dopamine [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4654732 - 09/13/05 01:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've never seen heroin. I know one person that has done it, but it IV'd it when he was a tweaker living in so cal. We don't have junkies, we ONLY have tweakers. The only drugs that are readily available are stimulants.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: AliceDee]
    #4654737 - 09/13/05 01:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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AliceDee said:
ive done all that before and dont want drugs in my system, i want natural stuff like dopamine..



You already have dopamine in your system. You can't "take" it like a drug, it's a neurotransmitter. You have to find ways to act on that part of your brain. Exercise, eat some ice-cream or take some heroin.

You can't dose yourself with dopamine, it wouldn't be natural anyway.


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Re: Dopamine [Re: mantis]
    #4654745 - 09/13/05 01:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

shhhh


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Re: Dopamine [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4654762 - 09/13/05 01:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Mantis exists to bring us all down.  :sad:


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Re: Dopamine [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4654816 - 09/13/05 02:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

*Mantits


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Re: Dopamine [Re: AliceDee]
    #4654862 - 09/13/05 02:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

AliceDee said:
To increase the amount of dopamine in the brain of patients with diseases such as Parkinson's disease, a synthetic precursor to dopamine such as L-DOPA can be given, since this will cross the blood-brain barrier.



There is a natural source of L-Dopa. The velvet bean contains about 7% by weight (if memory serves). You can indeed increase the production of dopamine with the administration of L-Dopa, L-Tyrosine or L-Phenylalanine. The closer to L-Dopa, the easier the conversion, the pathway is something like this: L-Phenylalanine => L-Tyrosine => L-Dopa => Dopamine => Norepinephrine => Epinephrine (adrenaline). Keep in mind that there are feedback mechanisms in the brain which serve to stabilize the production and release of neurotransmitters, L-Phenylalanine and L-Tyrosine administration will initially result in increased production and release of dopamine (and the other related neurotransmitters) but the levels will taper off (I can't remember if the same thing goes for L-Dopa). L-Phenylalanine and L-Tyrosine also compete with several other amino acids for the same transport mechanism across the blood brain barrier and hence should be taken on an empty stomach (I think L-Dopa gets in via a different way).


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