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Im new to this.. help please :)
    #4650411 - 09/12/05 03:31 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Before I start my setup is this


Going to do about 3 jars that size (in pic.)

Im thinking about doing a casing but not 100% sure if 3 jars of that size is good enough for a casing as listed on http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/565456/an/0/page/0
I guess if I got a smaller sized cooking tin pan it would work out but I got a few questions...
1. Whats Pre-sterilised casing mix (step 6)as listed on the Casing 101 (pictorial) list?
2. Where would damp perlite be placed in that casing example... Below the tin foil pan (not in pan but below it?)
3. And lets say if I dont want to do a casing and just use my cakes.. would a layer of damp perlite go on the bottom of my grow box then a level of some sort to keep cakings off the perlite?
4. As a follow up to question 3, and also considering that I wouldnt be using the casing method, how would I setup my cakes in the grow box in picture? That kit is from http://mycomonsters.com/wst_page5.html so most/all supplies come to grow mushrooms.

Anyways Im sure I got more questions but need a few responses. Thanks again gentlemen!


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FLLEWISFL]
    #4650544 - 09/12/05 04:08 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Also if any1s got a good link for "dunking" I read about it but still confused... and the term coldshocking? <--- But then again if I do a casing, dunking/coldshocking wouldnt apply to that method (casing)?


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FLLEWISFL]
    #4650607 - 09/12/05 04:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

dunking cakes or casings?


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4650624 - 09/12/05 04:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I will most likely wanna do casing... seems easier but I wouldnt mind learning about cakes too, but if thats too much information to talk about lets go with casing then. ty.


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FLLEWISFL]
    #4650641 - 09/12/05 04:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

if this is ur first grow id say go with cakes first, they r actually the easier ones to grow, i was gon to do a casing my first time to but then i did alot more research and realized cakes r the way to go for ur first few times. do a couple of cakes, get some prints, then practice on casings. unless u have a couple of prints/syringes already, then go ahead and do a casing:thumbup:


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4650894 - 09/12/05 05:18 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ty for some help thegatewaydryg but im still got no questions answered that can put me on track. im basically waiting for my syringue to start innculation and when the jar is fully colonized, if u suggest cakes are easier then yay! BUT, my questions is where I need most help. The reason why I figred cakes would be not harder but the reason is im confused on dunking/rolling/coldshocking... So lets say cakes.. bottom layer in grow box damp perlite, and then a level to keep each cake from touching perlite... help help help :P... ty ty ty!


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FLLEWISFL]
    #4650931 - 09/12/05 05:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

u dont have to coldshock, dunk, or roll it just helps if ur cakes r fucking up. yea, perlite on the bottom of ur terrarium add water (i usally put a heat pad under it to create more humidity) and ur off. fresh air exchange everyday about 4-5 times a day, make sure ur humidity is at 90% or higher, keep the temp 73F or higher but lower then 85F.

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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4651120 - 09/12/05 06:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

well u say that dunking/rolling/coldshock or w/e isnt a nesessary step BUT does your output of shrooms come out better? Is the cake really fragile that (most?) people do it?


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FLLEWISFL]
    #4651140 - 09/12/05 06:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

it rejuvenates ur cake, thus giving u better shrooms again. but like i said i woudlnt do it til the 3rd or 4th flush, cause thats when it really needs it


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4651176 - 09/12/05 06:31 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

last thing I beleive... when u flush your caking u twist the shroom stem or w/e u wanna call it directly at the caking where it started from or a centimeter or inch or so away from base of cake? btw ty thegatewaydrug u helped I will have pics in weeks to come when I get my syringe so when u see them u helped just knwo that :P!


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FLLEWISFL]
    #4651191 - 09/12/05 06:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

FLLEWISFL said:
when u flush your caking u twist the shroom stem or w/e u wanna call it directly at the caking where it started from or a centimeter or inch or so away from base of cake?



if by that u mean to get the shroom off the cake then yea thats wut u do.

but yea np man, always a plessure to help out future growers:thumbup:


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4651223 - 09/12/05 06:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thats the same chamber I bought for my first grow. Im really happy with the substrate they use. Makes some potent shrooms, let me tell ya. Also, this is what I did to the rubbermade they sent me.
After I did that, I didnt have to fan at all. Oh, heres some harvest pics from that substrate.
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The bottom picture is 1st flush from 2 cakes.


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FungusMan]
    #4651392 - 09/12/05 07:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

What are those things sticking out of the grow box that u added.. looks very interesting (instructions on how u did/how it works)... btw that level I see at the bottom of the grow box is that your perlite level, and also did u do damp perlite or water at a level and added perlite (measurements)? One more thing what humidity level did u get from that pictures and what did u use to level your cakes off from touching the perlite?


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FungusMan]
    #4651393 - 09/12/05 07:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

What are those things sticking out of the grow box that u added.. looks very interesting (instructions on how u did/how it works)... btw that level I see at the bottom of the grow box is that your perlite level, and also did u do damp perlite or water at a level and added perlite (measurements)? One more thing what humidity level did u get from that pictures and what did u use to level your cakes off from touching the perlite? ty!


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FLLEWISFL]
    #4652547 - 09/12/05 11:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Ok. I used 1 inch tubing, cut in segments of 3in long. I traced the circles on the chamber and cut them with a solder iron. Then I stuck the tubes in, used gasket maker
to seal around the tubes. If you do this, use a knife or sandpaper to ruff up the surface so the gasket maker will stick to the chamber.

Stuffed tubes with polyfill and voila. I used a total of 12 tubes. Maintain humidity of 97%. Use no fanning at all.


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FungusMan]
    #4652641 - 09/12/05 11:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, and yes. Thats perlite. I just soak and strain mine, the I pour a little peroxide on it, stir it up, then throw it in. As far as the cakes, if you set them directly on the perlite, youll get more shrooms from the bottom.Since I dont have any standing water in there, I can do that.


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FungusMan]
    #4652668 - 09/12/05 11:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

BRF cakes make some potent ones dont they :cool:
Does this bring back memories dude?
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    #4652697 - 09/12/05 11:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

LOL, fuck you Alou. And yeah, they got me by the booboo. Best puke I ever had though.Luckily, all I had on my stomach was the shrooms and orange juice.


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: FungusMan]
    #4652781 - 09/13/05 12:12 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Live n learn bitch live n learn, Im gonna miss you fuckheads :frown:


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Re: Im new to this.. help please :) [Re: OldSpice]
    #4652929 - 09/13/05 12:31 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

whats inside of those tubbings that u ahve that look white? look like socks lol... now also if I didnt do the tubing method u have shown, fanning... hmm... opening it 4-5 times a day and give refreshed air? or an actual fan would have to be in it? Any other easier method with my box that can be applied?


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