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What exactly IS knotting? [pics]
    #4647584 - 09/11/05 09:47 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I really just need some direction on what to do with my casings. I cased 11 days ago, using 60/40 coir/verm. I have been giving them 12 hours light, 12 hours darkness. I have been fanning about once an hour since casing. My temperatures are always between 72 and 77 F. My RH is consistently above 95%, which is apparently natural, since I am not using perlite or anything to increase humidity. I mist occasionally, when the casing starts to look dry. These are all B+.

My question is, should I be doing something different? I was told I am supposed to look for "knotting" but I can't actually figure out what that is. I think that what I'm looking at is a good sign, but as this is my first REAL grow, I am stupefied as to what I'm looking for. Can anyone speculate? At what point should I begin to panic? How long should I wait for pinning?? Thanks in advance.








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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: MARV]
    #4647617 - 09/11/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

knotting is amall goosebumps that will form on or right below the surface. You might spot pins a couple days after knotting.


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: MARV]
    #4647625 - 09/11/05 09:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

do they have green growing in them?kinda looks like green shit growing in that bottom pic + they looking a little brownish last ones i seen like that all got contams...but anyhow knotting is just like white bumps where the pins form,,,but in my opinion them casings are looking a little ruff


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: greatlakes]
    #4647698 - 09/11/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

no, there's no green. My camera, unfortunately, has teh suck. I think what you're seeing is little pieces of verm. Aren't those little bumps knots?


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: MARV]
    #4647722 - 09/11/05 10:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

you may try cold shocking to initiate pins. throw that sucker in the refrigerator for about two hours. you should see pins within three days.


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: Kosher]
    #4647748 - 09/11/05 10:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I cold shocked when I first cased for 12 hours... do you think I should try it again?


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: Kosher]
    #4647765 - 09/11/05 10:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

well not to disagree with you kosher but cold shocking will just slow them down if thats not green mold just let them go they will fruit if the conditions are right,I waited 14 days my first time i had 2 trays 1 i cold shocked and it took 5 days longer then the one i didn't but hey i am no expert here just my opinion


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: greatlakes]
    #4647779 - 09/11/05 10:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

after looking at them better that does look like there starting to knot if it was me I'd just wait,I'd bet you will have pins with in a few days


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: MARV]
    #4647780 - 09/11/05 10:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't cold shock directly after casing. My method is to case and then incubate. When mycelium breaks the surface of the casing, i patch that spot. i continue patching until the mycelium pokes out pretty evenly throughout the entire casing. THEN i cold shock by covering the tray and refrigerating for anywhere from two to twelve hours. then introduce light and air exchange.
So yes, i would try cold shocking again.


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: Kosher]
    #4647879 - 09/11/05 10:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I've never cold shocked and I've never had a problem. Patience is key.


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Re: What exactly IS knotting? [pics] [Re: FooMan]
    #4647918 - 09/11/05 10:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well, the pans were incubated at 85F and they were cold shocked for 12 hours after that, and since they've been pretty steady 10-12 degrees lower than incubation temp, so I don't know that cold shocking is going to do anything... I'm just anxious to see pins, and I'm not sure if the bumps that I have are going to turn into them, as they have been around for a few days and aren't growing. How long do pins usually take after the appearance of knots?


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