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Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article
    #4646513 - 09/11/05 05:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9286534/

This article is long but very informative.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4646666 - 09/11/05 06:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"the Department of Homeland Security, the 180,000-employee bureaucracy created after the Sept. 11 attacks, that meant convening the Interagency Incident Management Group."

If that number is correct, it's hard to see how they couldn't allocate enough heads to be able to plan for stuff like this.

I hate that name, Homeland. It's the same as Fatherland and Motherland. Joining two words together to try to add there connotations and emotional responses. Making it harder to criticize the large blundering waste of tax money.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4646862 - 09/11/05 07:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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RandalFlagg said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9286534/

This article is long but very informative.




No, the article is long but full of shit. Federal forces need to be invited in by the governor. Otherwise it is an extra-
constitutional invasion. They were ready but not able to enter without the governor's consent, which was not forthcoming.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4649109 - 09/12/05 04:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What it really comes down to is they should have built the levies stronger. Originally the plan was to build them to be able to handle a class 5 hurricane. Some environmentalist group (that wanted to protect shrimp and other sea life) got in the way and the levies werent built until about 20 year later and were only able to withstand a class 3 hurricane. In the early and mid 1900's New Orleans was nearly wiped out by 2 class three hurricanes.... my point... the problem could have been solved if people in the US did things right the first time.

No one would have needed help if we stuck with the original plan.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4649161 - 09/12/05 04:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What?

Did you miss the parts where the governor begged for help?


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: Rose]
    #4649162 - 09/12/05 04:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Er.... sorry, im not disputing that, I am just saying it sucks that we didnt do it right the first time. People died for no reason.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: Rose]
    #4649169 - 09/12/05 04:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was talking to zappa. :wink:


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: AaronEvil]
    #4649542 - 09/12/05 11:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

AaronEvil said:
Er.... sorry, im not disputing that, I am just saying it sucks that we didnt do it right the first time. People died for no reason.




It shouldn't have done at all.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: newuser1492]
    #4651163 - 09/12/05 06:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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cb9fl said:
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It shouldn't have done at all.




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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: Rose]
    #4651450 - 09/12/05 07:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
What?

Did you miss the parts where the governor begged for help?




Well yes actually, I did.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: Rose]
    #4651839 - 09/12/05 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Touche.


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Re: Why the government screwed up on Katrina - Washington Post article [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4653836 - 09/13/05 04:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's OK, it was a long article.

p.s. Aaron, I'm talking to zappa again... :wink:


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