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OfflineDonIncognito22
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first time grower...getting small shrooms
    #4644005 - 09/11/05 12:26 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hey all, I'm growing my first batch of cubensis thanks to all the info on this great site. I followed the PF Tek and currently have some shrooms growing in a tupperware container with perlite for humidification. However...my shrooms seem to be really small compared to what I see in pictures.

I've read that the best time to harvest is when the cap separates from the stem. Some of my shrooms (circled in pic) have reached that stage. I am assuming then, that they have reached their maximum size as well?

What can I do to make my next flush give larger shrooms? Or am I worrying for no reason?

Thanks!



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Re: first time grower...getting small shrooms [Re: DonIncognito22]
    #4644014 - 09/11/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That mushie on the right, does it have a break in it down the side?


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Re: first time grower...getting small shrooms [Re: ShroomInduced]
    #4644074 - 09/11/05 12:43 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Spawn to horse poo next time for bigger fruits


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Re: first time grower...getting small shrooms [Re: mskip23]
    #4644119 - 09/11/05 12:54 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

how often are you fanning?


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Re: first time grower...getting small shrooms [Re: DonIncognito22]
    #4644197 - 09/11/05 01:21 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Don't really need to work with horse poo to get bigger fruit, even if that would help it much. First of wall, review your environement condition. Here a table for primordia formation & fruiting :

Primordia formation :
Humidity : 95-100%
Air temp : 23.3 to 25.5 celsius
Co2 : less than 5000 ppm.
Air change : 1 to 3 per hour
Light : 16 hours per day

Fruiting :
Himidity : 85 - 92%
Air temp : 23.3 ? 25.5 celsius
Co2 : Less than 5000 ppm.
Air change : 1 to 3 per hour
Light : 8 to 12 hours per day

First, always try to get as much as possible of primordia formation, this is what define the number of shroom for the first and second flush. Once you have a lot of pin set, ajust your environement to the optimum fruiting range. The main difference between primordia formation and fruiting is the humidity level, you must made it fall a little bit. An hiher evaporation rate is important for a good fruiting. Keep a eye on your air temp too, this is also important.

Do you change your air ? Air change is very important, too much Co2 in the air will keep your shroom from fruiting! Hope this help


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Re: first time grower...getting small shrooms [Re: wise_gardener]
    #4644237 - 09/11/05 01:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Which strain are you growing? Some like J Allen and Texas are naturally smaller than other strains. Horse poo has a reputation for giving the best results in terms of yield and potency. There is also a fair amount of variation within a strain in terms of fruit size. My largest mushroom to date (113.8 grams) came from the Z strain, while Orissa India, known for giant fruits, mostly produced more average sized ones but in better, fuller flushes. PR is famous for large fruits, but mine were smaller than any of the other strains I grow.


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Re: first time grower...getting small shrooms [Re: Silly_Cyben]
    #4644335 - 09/11/05 01:53 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, thanks for all the quick replies everyone, this sure is a great community.

To answer your questions, in order:

No, none of the shrooms are broken or cracked, they all look healthy to me :smile:

I'm fanning the chamber 2-3 times a day, morning, afternoon and evening if possible. The shrooms seem to be fruiting fine, I've had one drop spores already (it's not in the pic 'cause I ate it  :smile:) but I don't know whether they're supposed to be this short.

As far as the humidity level, I'm going to get a hygrometer tomorrow so I'm not sure of the exact percentage. I have perlite in the box and some paper towels to seal the space b/w the lid and the box, so I'm assuming humidity is high enough.

I'm growing B+ that I ordered from Spores 101.

Thanks again for your replies!


Edited by DonIncognito22 (09/11/05 01:54 AM)


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Re: first time grower...getting small shrooms [Re: DonIncognito22]
    #4644418 - 09/11/05 02:19 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Wait a bit longer after the veil breaks (cap separates from stem), until the caps begin to flatten out. You're picking them too early if they're still mostly bulbous like that. Spores may begin to drop, but that doesn't matter from a functional point of view. The shrooms will be a little heavier and larger if you just wait a bit, though don't expect much vertical growth.

Here, this is not the greatest example (casing), but it illustrates the point I'm trying to make:

Before


and shortly thereafter.

^Those are not B+, so of course yours will look different as they mature. Also, it's possible that you have a smaller-than normal sub-strain of B+. Post some more pictures with your results, if you can.


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