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Appear to be pan subbs....but that just can't be.
    #4642518 - 09/10/05 04:44 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Well I was walking through a friends backyard today and I saw these growing in clusters in his lawn. Now mind you the lawn is not nice whatso ever, in fact they just dug most of it up to build a new garage so where these were growing was on once loose dirt. Now They were covered in black spore deposits but I have a spore print now to ensure that. Here's some pics and a description of my finds. I got 20 grams wet but, there were more.

Habitat = Back yard of friends house country part of Ohio more northern. Been around 80 lately little bit of rain here and there. Very cruddy soil barely anything but crab grass and weeds.

Gills = Seem to be black but almost have a brown look to em. Some have the white edge most don't. Not attached to the stem.

Stem = Pan subb thick with grooves running up them. Hollow and white with black spore deposits. Snaps very easily.

Cap = Brown spot in the middle yellow tanish around. Flat ( convex is the word I believe) with a very smooth fleshy texture.

Spores = Black spore deposits on everything ( including hands after I picked them up ) but doing actual spore print now.

Does not bruise

Does not smell like a pan subb but smells normal shroomy

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Re: Appear to be pan subbs....but that just can't be. [Re: vandago]
    #4642545 - 09/10/05 04:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm...they do look very strange. I have seen subbs growing in near pure crabgrass, though...

Very clearly black spores coming off of those though. Perhaps it is some other type of pan? Im not really sure...I think these pictures leave me just as confused as you :P. The caps look pretty strange, and I think that seems to be the most bizzare feature of it seperating it from a subb.


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Re: Appear to be pan subbs....but that just can't be. [Re: Ramuh]
    #4642657 - 09/10/05 05:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I've found pan subbs that look identical in every way to those. Especially the flat caps. The larger ones I find in horse dung always have flat caps and look a lot like that. Mind you those in the pics are a pretty decent size the biggest one being about 2.5 inch across.


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Re: Appear to be pan subbs....but that just can't be. [Re: vandago]
    #4643416 - 09/10/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Ahh..I have yet to find any subbs in dung, although I have found ones a good 3" across the cap before though.

Its not the flatness of the cap I was talking about, though, as that isn't really uncommon. I was referring to the color a bit and the texture.

What I use to ID subbs (lower part of stem, gills, verrry top of stem) are not in the pictures, though. I certainly don't disagree that these could very well be subbs, just wtf is with the cap on the one in the last picture.


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Re: Appear to be pan subbs....but that just can't be. [Re: Ramuh]
    #4643521 - 09/10/05 10:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

no need for contention, those are psathyrella velutina.


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