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OfflineCyano
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Peyote potency
    #4641152 - 09/10/05 10:06 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

How long does peyote needs to grow (from seeds)until it can be harvested?
I read that the alkaloid content is low in the first years. Can the cacti be harvested after flowering for the first time?


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: Cyano]
    #4641159 - 09/10/05 10:13 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i think after 4-5 years their mature and can be eaten, but you need a lot of they're that young.


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: day_tripper]
    #4641266 - 09/10/05 11:01 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Usually on websites or onlineshops they call 10 year old (or older) peyotes mature. What does mature actually means? They are not dying at that age. MJ plants for instance are dying after maturity of the flowers.


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: Cyano]
    #4641432 - 09/10/05 11:53 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

An excellent question which points out the need for more science! Pick up a plant biology/physiology book!

Mature can be called the age that the plant flowers.Do you know that some plants are annual,other biannual and other live for more years than you like seqoyas (sp? those giant trees) and oaks? There is an olive tree in Greece rumored to be nearly a thousand years old!

Some plants die after producing flowers,others dont! Welcome to the world of those that dont die after flowering!


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: Psiloman]
    #4642166 - 09/10/05 03:05 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Have you heard of the Methuselah Tree? It's a bristlecone pine tree that's over 4700 years old, the oldest known living organism. That means it was growing well before the great pyramids were built, and is still growing today...
Ironically, there was an older tree, but the scientists killed it because they took a big slice out to count its rings :rolleyes:.
Yew trees (taxus sp.) can easily live for over a thousand years in the right conditions I have heard.

Anyway, Nan at the Nook has said that in his experience a grafted peyote that is two or three years old is just as potent as one of the same size grown on its own roots. And a two or three year old graft can be very big with good stock.


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: Openminded]
    #4642411 - 09/10/05 04:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

??a grafted peyote....??
That brings me to another question. I read that soil for growing peyote has to be low in nutrients. If grafted on pereskiopsis the button will receive much nutrients, since pereskiopsis can handle quite nutritious soil. Why is that amount of nutrients (and water) not too much for the button?


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: Cyano]
    #4642923 - 09/10/05 06:48 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

teh extra water adn nutrients that get to teh peyote is teh point of the graft. to make it grow really fast


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: the man]
    #4643010 - 09/10/05 07:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

"soil for growing peyote has to be low in nutrients"

I don't think that's really true. Normally rich soil with lots of nutrients tends to be more acidic, and it drains poorly due to the high organic content. Both of these things are bad for peyote, but the nutrients themselves are not. Peyote is happy with lots of nutrients during the growing season, as long as it doesn't stay wet for too long, and you must remember that it hates acid soil. A poor, mineral rich soil is great if you give it some fertiliser every month.


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: Openminded]
    #4699020 - 09/23/05 03:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Openminded said:
Ironically, there was an older tree, but the scientists killed it because they took a big slice out to count its rings :rolleyes:.
Yew trees (taxus sp.) can easily live for over a thousand years in the right conditions I have heard.



Sorry I just had to revive and add to this.

Yes they took a ring sample of the (now dead) oldest tree, but that isn't what killed it. The tree-coring device was STUCK in the tree. The guy cut down the tree in order to get the device out. Fucking idiot.


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Re: Peyote potency [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4700355 - 09/23/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

total mndfreeze


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