Wiccan_Seeker said:

What do you think would happen if weed and shrooms werer legalized in YOUR country?

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Then i'd never get bored at the weekends 

No.. you didn't read it right

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measured per 1.000 citizens of any age group

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leery11 said:

do you think if they were legalized they'd be for 18 year olds or 21 year olds?

I'd really like to go to a hash bar.

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What do you think would happen if weed and shrooms werer legalized in YOUR country?

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it seems as if they were taken out of a Jackass episode!

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*Johnny Knoxville shoves a lit cigarette between his ass-cheeks and starts yee-hawwing how much he loves smoking teh crack *

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Sorry for giving such an image for my country

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Don't be ashamed: it's a pretty shitty country indeed



Seriously, I know we Shroomerites are 1337 and thats the worrying thing of it. The average drug user in no matter which country indeed knows direly little and has little care for his safety. We are making a difference, but the ones that most need the help are offline in more ways than internet access can solve.

Incidentally I see Marijuana to become troublesome much sooner than shrooms. If "fun" means cramming yourself full of drugs then most drugusers will know shrooms are no "fun" pretty fast. With weed however you can let your life go up in smoke and still come back for more.

I smoked a CAR in some 12 years of pot use (but no regrets!)

It's a SOFT drug but it can lead to HARD use in some, as picture we see pretty clearly in Holland.

Wiccan_Seeker said:

What do you think would happen if weed and shrooms werer legalized in YOUR country?

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Holland has less shroomers and pot users than the USA or the UK, measured per 1.000 citizens of any age group

What do you think would happen if weed and shrooms werer legalized in YOUR country?

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Plok said:

Let's try to be as fair and objective with this proposal as possible.  I'm going to take this a step further and state what would happen if ALL drugs were legalized.

*There would be a small rash of hospitalizations and/or accidents involving drug use by stupid or uneducated people, which would decline quickly as people realized the power of these substances and became educated
*Drug use would rise slightly initially, followed by a decline to levels below what they currently are
*Police and government would lose many overbearing powers that have snuck up on us and we have come to accept over the years
*Taxes from the drug sales would fund government programs, presumably to educate people on drug use dangers and benefits, and to fund anti-addiction programs
*Drug smuggling cartels would collapse or at least downsize dramatically (as they can still smuggle to other nations)
*Organized crime worldwide would decline
*Political corruption worldwide would decline
*Gangs would lose a significant portion of their funding (and power)
*Drug users would not have to associate with criminals and the criminal underworld
*Violent crime would go down significantly
*No one would ever get dirty drugs
*Many other nations would follow suit, as they would see the benefits it produces and no longer have the enormous pressure to criminalize these substances from the American government.  The reason so many liberal European nations still outlaw the same drugs as America (what a coincidence, eh?) is because of the enormous financial and trade pressure America puts on all nations in the world to conform to it's drug standards.  Remember that cannabis and mushrooms are technically not even truly legal in Holland
*Prison overpopulation would be a thing of the past.  In fact, if all crimes related to drug use and sale were eliminated, only about one third of the US inmate population would exist
*Research would resume on some of the most valuable substances known to man (MDMA, LSD, DMT, and so forth)
*The fruit of this drug research would lead to highly successful addiction treatment programs, cures or aides for numerous psychological ailments, and spiritual awakening
*The funding from drug sales tax and resources freed from drug prosecution would be an enormous benefit to the economy

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That was very well thought out. I agree with most all points made.

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Let's try to be as fair and objective with this proposal as possible. I'm going to take this a step further and state what would happen if ALL drugs were legalized.

*There would be a small rash of hospitalizations and/or accidents involving drug use by stupid or uneducated people, which would decline quickly as people realized the power of these substances and became educated
*Drug use would rise slightly initially, followed by a decline to levels below what they currently are
*Police and government would lose many overbearing powers that have snuck up on us and we have come to accept over the years
*Taxes from the drug sales would fund government programs, presumably to educate people on drug use dangers and benefits, and to fund anti-addiction programs
*Drug smuggling cartels would collapse or at least downsize dramatically (as they can still smuggle to other nations)
*Organized crime worldwide would decline
*Political corruption worldwide would decline
*Gangs would lose a significant portion of their funding (and power)
*Drug users would not have to associate with criminals and the criminal underworld
*Violent crime would go down significantly
*No one would ever get dirty drugs
*Many other nations would follow suit, as they would see the benefits it produces and no longer have the enormous pressure to criminalize these substances from the American government. The reason so many liberal European nations still outlaw the same drugs as America (what a coincidence, eh?) is because of the enormous financial and trade pressure America puts on all nations in the world to conform to it's drug standards. Remember that cannabis and mushrooms are technically not even truly legal in Holland
*Prison overpopulation would be a thing of the past. In fact, if all crimes related to drug use and sale were eliminated, only about one third of the US inmate population would exist
*Research would resume on some of the most valuable substances known to man (MDMA, LSD, DMT, and so forth)
*The fruit of this drug research would lead to highly successful addiction treatment programs, cures or aides for numerous psychological ailments, and spiritual awakening
*The funding from drug sales tax and resources freed from drug prosecution would be an enormous benefit to the economy

Oh, my. Now we wouldn't want THAT, would we?

I am of the opinion that all drugs should be legalized, not just cannabis and mushrooms. However education is the key. Anyone who intends to purchase these substances should be 18 or older and be REQUIRED to be educated on the substances they are purchasing. This education could take on many different forms.

There are lots of options people... let's try not to think in black and white. Of course unfortunately here I am preaching to the choir. This needs to be posted on FREEVIBE.

Drug legalization will happen one way or another. If you simply look at the incarceration statistics in America, they absolutely cannot continue forever. Change is inevitable, the question is how long will it take.

It's up to US to do what we can to make it happen sooner rather than later. Get involved with groups like NORML and other anti-prohibitionist groups. Read "Why Our Drug Laws Have Failed: And What We Can Do About It" by Judge James Gray.

Cannabis decriminalization is the first step, and it has already happened in a number of states. After that will be legalization, and then other drugs will gradually become legalized. It's already happening, thanks to the hard work and dedication of a lot of people with their hearts (and minds) in the right places. Let's see that it continues.

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Wiccan_Seeker said:

What do you think would happen if weed and shrooms werer legalized in YOUR country?

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If it was legal our government would lose a ton of money they generate threw "fishing".
They would no longer be able to pull thousands of people off the streets taking a big
chunck of money.

They wouldnt be able to take our dope an turn around and resell it in some sting operation.

too big of a money maker for them.

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demius said:

isn't bike theft one of the top crimes in Holland? I remember hearing something to that extent.

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