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OfflineAnisotropic
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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4634785 - 09/08/05 07:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Every one goes to school. At one point and time the schools where segregated. But since EVERYONE has to go to school, it's not fair for the government to select a group of people that get less then everyone else just because they fall in an easily defined group.

Similarly, EVERYONE has relationships, but currently the government has selected a very easily definable group to give less rights to.

I know that it is the belief of alot of people that homosexual relationships are not equal to heterosexual ones. And currently because they are a majority,the laws reflect there views.

But at one point and time, it was the majority of people's views that blacks where inferior to whites. The law also used to reflect that.

But those laws needed to be changed, even if a majority of people disagreed, because it was the right thing to do.

Why should the government give a white man more things just because he is white? Is the black man less valid, is he less a citizen?
((This works both ways, why should a black man get any more then a white? He shouldn't.))

Similarly why should homosexuals not be granted the same rights? If the government takes there tax money just like everyone else's they should at least expect to get the same rights as everyone else.

It's not like they're getting a tax break for the loss in rights. As a matter of fact, the opposite is true.

It's not like you can expect that they are not going to have relationships. Why should the rules that govern there relationships be any different?


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4634913 - 09/08/05 07:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

then is not now.

now there are plenty of things to keep an extreme
like that from being realized past the point of
it being a relevant example.

what if they voted to do away with oxygen?!


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: looner2]
    #4634931 - 09/08/05 07:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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looner2 said:
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Unagipie said:
Prohibiting gay marriage is just as absurd as yesterday's prohibition of interracial marriage.




Not quite, marriage usually makes babies. Babies born into a marriage have shown statistically to be well-adjusted adults who further contribute to society. Since leaving offspring for another generation is important for life to continue many believe government tax incentives promotes a positive and productive country.




Why do babies have to be "made"? Gay couples can just as easily adopt, and there's hundreds of kids on waiting lists waiting for a home.


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4634939 - 09/08/05 07:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
i do not get the civil union = segregation connection.



WOW! four pages and not one person has called me a homophobe for questioning Gay Marriage.

Thank You! Shroomery PA&L




You'd also be suspected of racism if you questioned interracial marriage.


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: Unagipie]
    #4635103 - 09/08/05 08:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
i do not get the civil union = segregation connection.



WOW! four pages and not one person has called me a homophobe for questioning Gay Marriage.

Thank You! Shroomery PA&L




You'd also be suspected of racism if you questioned interracial marriage.






almost made five pages!


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4635105 - 09/08/05 08:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
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Unagipie said:
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lonestar2004 said:
i do not get the civil union = segregation connection.



WOW! four pages and not one person has called me a homophobe for questioning Gay Marriage.

Thank You! Shroomery PA&L




You'd also be suspected of racism if you questioned interracial marriage.






almost made five pages!




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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4635111 - 09/08/05 08:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What a termi-dick.


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: Unagipie]
    #4635353 - 09/08/05 09:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

When gay marriage is legalized, im thinking of starting a website that hooks up straight single men for brief marriages to evade 30% capital gains tax on home sales.  You think it will work?  Shit, we are in the whole "housing bubble" thing here.  Im smelling a fortune to be made.  :grin:


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: Redstorm]
    #4635356 - 09/08/05 09:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
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looner2 said:
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Unagipie said:
Prohibiting gay marriage is just as absurd as yesterday's prohibition of interracial marriage.




Not quite, marriage usually makes babies. Babies born into a marriage have shown statistically to be well-adjusted adults who further contribute to society. Since leaving offspring for another generation is important for life to continue many believe government tax incentives promotes a positive and productive country.




The world is overpopulated anyways. We should be encouraging gay marriage.




You did not just go there!


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: Catalysis]
    #4635357 - 09/08/05 09:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Catalysis said:
When gay marriage is legalized, im thinking of starting a website that hooks up straight single men for brief marriages to evade 30% capital gains tax on home sales.  You think it will work?  Shit, we are in the whole "housing bubble" thing here.  Im smelling a fortune to be made.  :grin:



Why not do that right now for men and women wishing to do the same?


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: looner2]
    #4635367 - 09/08/05 09:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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looner2 said:
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Redstorm said:
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looner2 said:
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Unagipie said:
Prohibiting gay marriage is just as absurd as yesterday's prohibition of interracial marriage.




Not quite, marriage usually makes babies. Babies born into a marriage have shown statistically to be well-adjusted adults who further contribute to society. Since leaving offspring for another generation is important for life to continue many believe government tax incentives promotes a positive and productive country.




The world is overpopulated anyways. We should be encouraging gay marriage.




You did not just go there!




I did.


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: Silversoul]
    #4635690 - 09/08/05 11:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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Catalysis said:
When gay marriage is legalized, im thinking of starting a website that hooks up straight single men for brief marriages to evade 30% capital gains tax on home sales.  You think it will work?  Shit, we are in the whole "housing bubble" thing here.  Im smelling a fortune to be made.  :grin:



Why not do that right now for men and women wishing to do the same?




Although the tide is turning, far more single men own homes than single women.  Also, there are marriage-for-convenience scams but it just seems to be more difficult to get women to go for them than men.  The reasons are pretty obvious if you think about the traditional roles of men and women in marriages.  I think full-rights, same-sex marriage could change that paradigm.


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Re: Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill. [Re: Silversoul]
    #4635721 - 09/08/05 11:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"Catalysis said:
When gay marriage is legalized, im thinking of starting a website that hooks up straight single men for brief marriages to evade 30% capital gains tax on home sales. You think it will work? Shit, we are in the whole "housing bubble" thing here. Im smelling a fortune to be made.


Why not do that right now for men and women wishing to do the same? "

Because that wouldn't make a point about gay marriage?


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