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 JMK0420
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 given her shrooms 
#4633221 - 09/08/05 08:36 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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My girlfriend dosent like the fact that i like shrooms but im growin a bunch and there gonna be ready soon and i wanna give her some so she can understand what there all about, cause she thinks all "drugs" are bad. But she dosent want them cause shes afraid she'll bug out like the bitch on the eminem song. I dont no if i should push it on her or not but i think it could open up her mind more, make her understand. Which ya think 
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 Re: given her shrooms [Re: JMK0420]
#4633254 - 09/08/05 08:54 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eish... hard one. Unless she shows slight interest in the idea then I'd say no. Had a similar experience with an ex girlfriend who's idea's on drugs sound similar to your girlfriend. She ate some weed cookies (she took them without anybody forcing it on her) Anyway she freaked out, hated it and got all paranoid and shit, so yea not cool. I could see shrooms doing worse to her...
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: meehi]
#4633266 - 09/08/05 09:01 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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She will have to open her mind or else the shrooms will open it for her.
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: ShroomDoom]
#4633551 - 09/08/05 11:13 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomDoom said:
She will have to open her mind or else the shrooms will open it for her.
Or she'll think she's dying or 'bugging out like the bitch in the eminem song', have a horrible bad trip and hate him from then onwards.
Never force anyone to trip, it's an insult to them and an insult to the shrooms.
Now educate her and let her make her mind up, that's the way!
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: Oakbear]
#4633625 - 09/08/05 11:41 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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dump her
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: roby000]
#4633634 - 09/08/05 11:44 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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give her 5g's of shrooms then dump her 
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: roby000]
#4633646 - 09/08/05 11:49 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL... damn... I wouldn't say dump her. I'd introduce her to a very very mild plant that SHE would like. My fiance never even touched as much as a cigarette till she met me. She didn't care what I did but she would have no part, after a while she showed interest in ganja... so I shared a very small amount. She freaked... told me to call 911... lasted about 30 min, I didn't call 911. Really really sucked, but after that 30 min. she started to realize that she wasn't dying... and after 1 hour after smoking she really enjoyed it and the uncomfortableness went away.
She asked about mushrooms about two weeks ago... so we went hunting and found some Pan. Subbs. (can't spell) locally. She liked walking around and picking them so she found eating them that much more enjoyable. She hit a 1.5 maybe... but ended up liking it without the worry of it being too much. That's how I'd introduce someone.
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fart on her nose while shes sleeping.
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i wouldn't start with shrooms to help someone with her mind set see the way you do. and if she really thinks that all 'drugs' are bad, maybe you shuold introduce her to some legal stuff... maybe kratom or something... what ever you do take it slow and let her make up her own mind. if she feels she was pressured, she'll most likely be doomed to have a bad experience.
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: theBRINK]
#4633728 - 09/08/05 12:08 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea, usually people with the mindset that drugs are bad believe so simply because theyre illegal. grow her interest by introducing her to legal substances.
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: swiftrance]
#4633747 - 09/08/05 12:12 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i had the same situation with my sister and acid. i found the key was to get her drunk and then spring the idea of tripping from nowhere. works every time.
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 Re: given her shrooms [Re: JMK0420]
#4633786 - 09/08/05 12:25 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could turn out to be a very good idea, or a very bad idea. It's a roll of the dice, but you never want to force someone to trip. On the other hand, you could just "make some tea". Put in a very small threshold dose, and then go do something fun. (I'm only joking of course...)
If you want to be really sneaky and immoral, start making tea on a regular basis. Increase the doseage a tiny bit each time over the next few weeks. Then, after drinking some tea, finally drop the hammer by telling her that mushrooms must not be so bad, since she's tripping right now! AhaHAhAHAHAhAHAHAHahahaAHAHAHAHAAHAAAH!!!
Just have some cash ready and be prepared to run.
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: swiftrance]
#4633792 - 09/08/05 12:27 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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me and my girlfriend do xtc a lot...
mushrooms are a lot diffrent then E lol..see how she likes it this fall. Ya if she thinks all drugs are bad I WOULD NOT give her shrooms LOL. One of the most looseing yourself drugs. Im sure shed love xtc =p.
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: pondpond]
#4633840 - 09/08/05 12:43 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't force em on her, maybe offer her a lower dose if she shows interest.
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: JMK0420]
#4634108 - 09/08/05 02:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I took my girlfriend to a secluded beach and we dosed half an eighth for her first trip. It was perfect.
KEY: Explain the come-up to her. I always tell new trippers something like:
"When the mushrooms start to hit, you might feel a little sick, worried, confused, weird. This happens to me sometimes. I've learned, though, that its just your body and mind transitioning from sobriety to the tripping state... because it ALWAYS gives way to something completely different. Now when I get that weird come-up feeling, I get excited, because I know soon it won't be long before I"m in the beautiful world of mushrooms."
I think a lot of newbies have bad trips when they get to the come-up and think "ok... so this is mushrooms... wow this is scary. i do'nt like this. i don't like these mushrooms. holy shit this is getting more and more intense. this is just starting! how far am I going? SHIT I"VE GOT 6 MORE HOURS!"
But it just doesn't happen like that. You start tripping, and you smile 
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popnganja420
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: Noviseer]
#4635534 - 09/08/05 08:35 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Noviseer... that is the perfect way to describe it to someone new.
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Thats honestly retarded... If you take shrooms just to feel good... or because someone else wants you too... a lot of the time your in for a bad trip...
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: JMK0420]
#4635634 - 09/08/05 08:56 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Educate her about them.
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Ramuh
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She thinks all drugs are evil/bad?
Does she drink alcohol? If so, there is a large chip you can take at the cornerstone right there. Alcohol seems to be the big drug that no one considers a drug anymore, its just itself, alcohol. Of course, alcohol is quite the drug, and really somewhat a dangerous one when compared to some others out there.
*edit - and what was said in the post above me is perfect too. Just tell her that if you can prove that these mushrooms are evil and bad with facts, that you'll back off with them. Then maybe she'll go and try to find these facts, and perhaps in the way learn about the real facts.
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Edited by Ramuh (09/08/05 09:07 PM)
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: Ramuh]
#4635711 - 09/08/05 09:20 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ramuh said:
Just tell her that if you can prove that these mushrooms are evil and bad with facts, that you'll back off with them. Then maybe she'll go and try to find these facts, and perhaps in the way learn about the real facts.
As long as she doesn't stumble upon dare.com or some other propagandic government funded "drug awareness" site. 
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: Blek]
#4635724 - 09/08/05 09:24 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Picking4Peace said:
Quote:
Ramuh said:
Just tell her that if you can prove that these mushrooms are evil and bad with facts, that you'll back off with them. Then maybe she'll go and try to find these facts, and perhaps in the way learn about the real facts.
As long as she doesn't stumble upon dare.com or some other propagandic government funded "drug awareness" site.
Heh, just to see what they said, I went to dare.com, and for info on drugs, they directed to "dea's drugs of concern" site. Out of all the drugs listed there, mushrooms actually was not on there at all 0_o. Guess it isn't a concern then :P.
*edit - actually, it is kinda there, just didn't see it well at first. Still, they don't hardly have SHIT on mushrooms in there.
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Edited by Ramuh (09/08/05 09:26 PM)
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: JMK0420]
#4635891 - 09/08/05 10:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a cousin who basically is the same way. He thinks of all drugs as "all the same bad shit". Well, I took him to a festival and after watching everyone do stuff for the first day and not freak out or die, he started feeling left out and asked for some shrooms. I was hesitant at first, but I soon gave in and let him have it. 2 grams. I thought that would nice and mellow for him to break his cherry on.
Well.....,
Neither he nor I was prepared for the consequences. At first he loved the body high that he got and participated in our drum circle. We had a great time playing for hours. Then he started to think about how he lives his life drug free, but now he has gone and used a drug, gotten high, etc.. Well this started a thought loop because he has this inferiority complex because he grew up poor and how he decided long ago to be better than everybody else, but now he's out in the woods doing drugs like his alcoholic father, so he just wanted it to stop.
He kept telling me to make it stop, make it stop, make it stop!!! He was in his own mental hell that he built for himself. I couldn't go to any shows that night because I had to stay with him and try to comfort him, even though he just kept telling me that if I couldn't make it all stop, to just shut up because he didn't want to talk about it. It wasn't up for discussion. He'd decided that I had provided him with a tool of the devil to distort his soul, and bend his will to evil purposes, and I couldn't convince him to calm down.
If some one has predetermined ideas and notions about what they will experience on any given drug, or has made up their mind that "drugs" are bad, shrooms might not be the best thing to try to change their minds with. Shrooms bring forth the inner part of you and sometimes help you to see things that you don't want to see. Becoming upset, while tripping your first time, isn't conductive to a positive drug experience.
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JMK0420
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: JMK0420]
#4637102 - 09/09/05 07:40 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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shhhiiit man.... The chick "thinks all drugs are bad" but we've done E togther and smoke n stuff, she just is always like "this is so bad" right before i pop the pill in her mouth. She dosent like shrooms cause i was trippin balls one night and called her up talkin all this crazy shit like i never wanna smoke again and i need to stop chillin with all my friends cause at the time i thought they were all crazy, then the next day i wanted ta smoke a blunt and she took everything i was sayin the night b4 to heart and called me a lier and shit. But fuck it- maybe i need a new girl- or just ta try an get this one ta see where i was comin from 
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: JMK0420]
#4637117 - 09/09/05 07:52 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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First give her first hand information on potency, duration, lack of health risks, see if she has mental problems. Let her know humans have been eating mushrooms since the dawn of time and they're completely natural. They're not synthesized and loaded up with other drugs.
Once all have been cleared, assure her you'll be there to help with anything. Inform her you know what you're doing and she's safe. Chics tend to get really sentimental with trips and I think with the proper dosage you could provide her with the most wild ride of her life. Go for it!
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: Newbie]
#4637237 - 09/09/05 09:15 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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No one should ever rely on advice from an Eminem song. How about introducing her to Erowid for some credible information?
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: nookjohn]
#4637266 - 09/09/05 09:30 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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IME it was a bad idea. Girlfriend hadn't done any drug but drink. Shes against most drugs because they're unhealthy. Well she'd consider pot if she didn't have asthma.
One night i had made some shroom chocolates, she was considering taking some. I went back to the room and she was starting to eat one. So i took one too, only about a gram each.
We both got high as fuck, somehow... needless to say, even after telling her what to expect and such, she didn't have a very good time. She'd get waves of good feelings, then waves of really shitty nauseousness. This went on the whole time, mostly the ladder. I kept her pretty calm, and she didn't panic too much but it was obvious she wasn't too happy.
The next day she had a horrible headache all day, which led her to believe it did something bad to her brain.
I've given her all the right info, but shes one to think not all info on the internet is true.
Well she wasn't pissed at me, but swears to never take shrooms again, and shudders anytime i talk about or do them, or any psychedellic.
If your girl is a psychedellic virgin, i would suggest not pushing it on her whatsoever, some people aren't ready to see the other side, and may never be.
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Ekstazas advise is good here (alot of others too)..I wouldnt push them on her..
"If some one has predetermined ideas and notions about what they will experience on any given drug, or has made up their mind that "drugs" are bad, shrooms might not be the best thing to try to change their minds with. Shrooms bring forth the inner part of you and sometimes help you to see things that you don't want to see. Becoming upset, while tripping your first time, isn't conductive to a positive drug experience. "
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Re: given her shrooms [Re: scatmanrav]
#4650185 - 09/12/05 12:32 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Experience has showed me that if they dont want it, then its best not to force them. It is a shame that she is so against it, but if you respect her in any way,you'll leave her alone.
If you dont want to do that maybe try talking to her about the actual experience of tripping, she might warm up to the idea.
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