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TN studd Q's
    #4631073 - 09/07/05 07:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

on the site it says:
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What is the volume of this product?
One 5lb bag will fill a 12X12 container do a depth of about 4 inches.





how much does this 5lb brick increase in mass after its been boiled/moistened? Is the owner taking this into account when he says it will fill a 12X12 container?

does the pre pasturized hpoo come dry or wet? is their any advantage to getting the unpasturized version? why is the unpasturized version cost more than the pasturized version?

which version of the hpoo can i order to get the most for my money, provided that i have access to straw and am willing to pasturize if necessary?


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4631113 - 09/07/05 07:53 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

well the prepasturized poo is ready to use out of the bag, already has the correct moisture content. i imagine the unpasturized is dry therefore you would get more poo than the prepasturized. don't know this for sure that would be a question best posed to tennstud.
i would say if you are willing to pasturize it get the unpasturized and end up with more for your work.
better yet you could go and collect some and do the whole process yourself.
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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: backupwards]
    #4631166 - 09/07/05 08:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I still mist mine with h202/water mix after pasturization when im mixing in my spawn
That helps with any contams you might introduce preparing a casing


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: OldSpice]
    #4631356 - 09/07/05 08:47 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

thanks anyways, ill just email the owner.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4631613 - 09/07/05 09:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

oh one more question, grower related:

can i use old colonized hpoo to spawn to new hpoo?


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4631661 - 09/07/05 09:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Dry horse poo will gain approx. 3x it's weight once hydrated. So if you buy 5 LBS. dry, plan on it weighing about 15 LBS. once wet.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: Holydiver]
    #4631853 - 09/07/05 10:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

thanks, could you answer my last Q plz?


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4631884 - 09/07/05 10:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

can i use old colonized hpoo to spawn to new hpoo?

Shure you can as long as its not contammed


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: Holydiver]
    #4633024 - 09/08/05 06:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Dry horse poo will gain approx. 3x it's weight once hydrated. So if you buy 5 LBS. dry, plan on it weighing about 15 LBS. once wet.




Does it gain any volume?


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: tops008]
    #4633043 - 09/08/05 07:13 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Does it gain any volume?




Technically, NO. Just weight.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: FooMan]
    #4633171 - 09/08/05 10:04 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

a 5lb of pre-pasteurized fills a 68L sterlite to a depth of approx 3.5"


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: memes]
    #4633600 - 09/08/05 01:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

68 liter or 68 quart?


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: FooMan]
    #4633811 - 09/08/05 02:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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tops008 said:
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Does it gain any volume?




Technically, NO. Just weight.




is it just me or does that not make any sense? whenever you add water to something you increase its volume, if not the waters volume itself, then for the amount of air space taken up by fluffing a saturated substrate. After all, the unpasturized stuff comes as compressed bricks right?

5lb prepasturized = $20 ( $4 per pound )
5lb unpasturized = 15lb pasturized = $25 ( $1.66 per pound ).

his pricing scale doesnt make much sense either. damn, your paying out the ass to have them pasturize it.

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a 5lb of pre-pasteurized fills a 68L sterlite to a depth of approx 3.5"




can you give us the surface area? telling us its 68L doesnt really help.


Edited by 001 (09/08/05 02:42 PM)


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4635325 - 09/08/05 09:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

If your worried about cost, I just got a 50 lb bag of dried and shredded poo off of ebay. With s/h the total came to 27 dollars. I paid for it on Saturday and it was delivered on Tuesday. You can buy smaller portions too and then the s/h is also less. Just another option.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: hardwaters]
    #4635355 - 09/08/05 09:52 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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If your worried about cost, I just got a 50 lb bag of dried and shredded poo off of ebay. With s/h the total came to 27 dollars. I paid for it on Saturday and it was delivered on Tuesday. You can buy smaller portions too and then the s/h is also less. Just another option.



must be nice. I ordered the same way a week ago, and havent heard anything. Im about to get mad!


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: FungusMan]
    #4635600 - 09/08/05 10:49 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I placed an order, and I never got a cofirmation from paypal, so I PM"d Mike and he quickly replied and confirmed my order. I was very pleased with the service. The order arrived a few days later. The unpasturized poo is not a brick, it's a bag of finely shredded poo. Perfect texture. I cant wait to spawn my portabellas and try it out. Anyways, props to MIke and Tenn. Stud. Peace.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4637305 - 09/09/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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001 said:
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FooManShroom said:
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tops008 said:
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Does it gain any volume?




Technically, NO. Just weight.




is it just me or does that not make any sense? whenever you add water to something you increase its volume, if not the waters volume itself, then for the amount of air space taken up by fluffing a saturated substrate. After all, the unpasturized stuff comes as compressed bricks right?

5lb prepasturized = $20 ( $4 per pound )
5lb unpasturized = 15lb pasturized = $25 ( $1.66 per pound ).

his pricing scale doesnt make much sense either. damn, your paying out the ass to have them pasturize it.




No its just you, when you add water to the horse poo, the volume doesnt change. It does not come as compressed bricks, but backs of somewhat compressed bricks. Cut open the bag and dump it in the bucket though and it fluffs out as you dump it. Its not compressed, just packed in by hand well. Then you add water, it doesnt expand at all, however it does absorb, and the water fills in all the air space of the fluffy dry poo and it gains weight. And the pricing scale makes perfect sense..pasteurizing correctly, takes work, takes bags, sealing, time, you pay for that..its really really cheap if you want to do the work yourself, and a really good deal. Very very expensive if you buy it pasteurized, but its your choice to pay to not do the work..and since I see alot of people ordering prepasteurized, it must be worth it to them to pay that money to not pasteurize. It really is a good amount of work, not worth it to me..but that doesnt mean the pricing doesnt make sense.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4637745 - 09/09/05 02:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

so am i correct when i say that the 5lb unpasturized = 15lb after at-home pasturization, which is equalivant to tn studd's prepasturized stuff?

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It really is a good amount of work, not worth it to me




how so? you just throw a bunch of poo in a pillow case, simmer @ 170F for a couple hours, squeeze the excess water out and let cool.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4637781 - 09/09/05 02:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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so am i correct when i say that the 5lb unpasturized = 15lb after at-home pasturization, which is equalivant to tn studd's prepasturized stuff?

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It really is a good amount of work, not worth it to me




how so? you just throw a bunch of poo in a pillow case, simmer @ 170F for a couple hours, squeeze the excess water out and let cool.




Scat was saying that the PRICE was not worth it to him. He was justifying why Tenn Stud charges more for pasturized poo.


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Re: TN studd Q's [Re: 001]
    #4637893 - 09/09/05 03:02 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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001 said:
so am i correct when i say that the 5lb unpasturized = 15lb after at-home pasturization, which is equalivant to tn studd's prepasturized stuff?

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It really is a good amount of work, not worth it to me




how so? you just throw a bunch of poo in a pillow case, simmer @ 170F for a couple hours, squeeze the excess water out and let cool.




Well, 15 pounds was equal to about 35 wet pounds, last time I used TN Stud..but it depends how much water is there to begin with, the other package I got, is much fluffier and drier and so will probably make more. A good substrate though is 70% water, so if it comes with less then 5% water content, it will expand to almost 3 times the weight, yes.

The price is not worth it to me, but it is a bit more work then that. Breaking up all the nugs of poo is a bitch, and of the two boxes I got from TN Stud, the first one I had to break up, the second one came all broken up.

Besides that, you have to let it all dry. And keep in mind, when I'm doing something, I'm doing it big..so its alot of work to do 2 pillowcoses FULL..and ind somewhere for them to hang and then try and squeeze out all the extra water in that shit. It takes hours..not to mention hours of sitting there waiting for it to pasteurize. I dont even do that method, I use one I think is quicker and easier, when you get down to it.

The steps are easy to say, but wait till you actually do it...its more work then you think..for some, its worth their time to pay an extra 20-50 bucks per grow..when you get right down to what you can produce...5 pounds wet gives you like 2-3 ounces of shrooms for 20 bucks, and no work other then, cut the bag, dump, and mix..or you can spend 5 bucks more to get 3 times as much, like 5-9 ounces of shrooms...but then your looking at getting a big pot, watching it, pillowcases, poo water everywhere, somewhere to drain for 24 hours that you dont do dishes in or take a shower, or PP bags ect...

As I said, pasteurizing is still worth it to me, its not THAT tough...but it certainly is not a ripoff for prepasteurized stuff for those who do not have the space, time, or energy to do such things, when its only a few bucks and you get a few ounces...


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