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OfflineAtman
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0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much?
    #4629369 - 09/07/05 12:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Just coming down now, I have intermittent very bad stomach cramps (never had that before). Mushrooms do not seem like a good choice for the human. Healing wise they were very good (lots of shamanic work done), Broke through many levels and had God completely take me over, but the psychological dangers make it hard to recommend. Had many times the dosage before (20g) but never been whacked this thoroughly. I may have learnt enough to not need such a crude implementation again. Sorry if any of my thoughts offend you.


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629433 - 09/07/05 01:00 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I have come down further now and I just don't know what to think. What do I do now? I've got no fucking idea. Gotta take the leap of faith.


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629502 - 09/07/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Shamanically felt into pain and dis-ease and experienced the relationship with the mind, these disturbances are symptoms of. Any deviance from the divine source is painful on whatever level (conscious or not). The mind is definately the source of all bodily dis-ease. Cancers, bone problems, asthma, anything really I don't care what any else says it is definately true. It can all be undone, sure its hard when the patterns are so inbuilt, but the destructive thought can be unlearned with meditation. Reality is fluid right, but the mind is stuck. Sounds impossible doesnt it? I can just grasp the necessities of it now. Not really sure I make sense, but don't really care.


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629534 - 09/07/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

As usual I threw out my drugs when I was peaking. Into the fire went 40mg of DMT, a whole pile of salvia leaves, 4 HBW seeds and about 7g dried shrooms. The dope didn't go in though. lol


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629568 - 09/07/05 01:27 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

maybe it wasnt the drugs that fucked with your mind, it was your mind


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629582 - 09/07/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Hope you don't mind me talking to myself. It was really neat how only 800mg got me so whacked, I smoked some dope, then came some salvia leaves and then I boiled up some shrooms (cant believe how efficient it was for such a small amount) I was expecting to do some threshold surfing for the night, not to have reality completely left behind. I was really fucked out at some times and it was really spinning me out at the time to think of how high I was too lol.


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629594 - 09/07/05 01:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

^^ I like your logic dude.lol


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629638 - 09/07/05 01:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Breathwork is very important, I used to think water was a great medicine, but it pales in comparison with breath. Very grounding too when necessary.

Sighing is very good for you, don't deny yourself have a big sigh of contentedness


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629647 - 09/07/05 01:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Alright I will shutup now since I am just feeling stoned now, sorry for talking the normal(lol) crap.


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629806 - 09/07/05 02:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

shit, next time you want to throw perfectly good DMT out PM me so i can take it off your hands :wink:


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: coda]
    #4629851 - 09/07/05 02:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I know-
I would have taken it off of my hands (now that I am straightER) too. lol


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4629906 - 09/07/05 02:57 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i agree with your thoughts on disease and the "i don't need these substances" (it's all inside) idea. i simply tend to forget feelings very quickly, so any strong push i have towards one thing or another seems to fade away soon after a dose, an expereince, a thought..


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: puwtrip]
    #4629949 - 09/07/05 03:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The desire to be "out of it" is strong with me when not tripping.lol

The very seeking of the experience leads to differentiation from that which you seek. This is a disturbance that is noticed as the mind I believe. The differentiation at any point is a moment in seperateness from the divine source (true self etc).


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4630843 - 09/07/05 06:47 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i never heard of psilocybe subaeruginosa. did you grow it yourself?


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4631759 - 09/07/05 10:04 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

They are an Australian species, I found them about 2 weeks ago. I would love to know if any has information regarding psilocybin/psilocin content for this species. They are very potent compared to cubensis.

In the pic below, the largest cap measures 10cm across. This is larger than the max 5cm cap dimensions given this species in "psilocybin mushrooms of the world". I think a lot more study needs to be done with this species since it has a great deal of variation from habitat to habitat. I mean I go somewhere else and I find completely different characteristics.

For example some I find them growing in woodchipped areas and they often have a hole or an indentation in the cap, yet another patch will reveal no members with this quality. Others have a smooth even cap margin and others are completely undulating in their cap margins, doesn't seem to have anything to do with the maturity of the specimen. Some are more deep orange in color, others paler yellow in the juvenile phases. Why such huge variation.

Any psilocybe subaeruginosa heads around?



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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4631897 - 09/07/05 10:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Mmm this morning I feel excellent and I had severe lower back pain for over two months and now it is miraculously gone. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou teonanactl. Mushrooms are definately a wonderous form of life.


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4631916 - 09/07/05 10:52 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Those shrooms look wonderfull!

.8 grams eh? Wow!


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: CandyLand]
    #4631977 - 09/07/05 11:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I am surprised by the small amount that was necessary to elicit a very strong effect, in fact I'm almost ashamed! I guess although I can take large amounts and live, I'm also very sensitive to psychedelics. I can get as I high as I possibly can from 3 bong rips of plain salvia leaf (any more and I get blackouts).

Someone else might have not the gotten the same reaction from the amount I took. A few times now however I have had a ridiculously strong response from small doses.

This experience was much much stronger than 4.5g of truffles I had taken a month before. Surely there would be more psilocybin etc in 4gs of truffles than 0.8 of P subs.


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: Atman]
    #4632231 - 09/08/05 12:21 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I thought Ps subbs were less potent then cubensis? Maybe these arent "subbs" or I was just mistaken, dont know much about the species...there is a dosage calculator in the trip FAQ's, its not incredibly accurate, but its pretty close for the species I've looked at on there, give that a shot? It could have just been a threshhold amount of actives too, that your mind just took ahold of, if it was wanting to express something, and needed an easy outlet..who knows :smile:


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Re: 0.8g of psilocybe subaeruginosa lvl5 trip too much? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4632512 - 09/08/05 01:34 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Scatmanrav thanks for the comments.

re: P subs, um sorry for misleading you.

I should have realized most people associate this term with Panaeolus subbalteatus. The ones I had are psilocybes subaeruginosa.

The calculator has been updated since I last checked (thanks for the tip)and now includes the psilocybes subaeruginosa. According to that these shrooms sit between cyancens and azurescens in potency.

I believe you are right, The salvia I had before lift off may have provided a platform to lift off from, giving a stronger trip. Since it requires 3g for a lvl 5. I'm more used to taking the salvia at the time of the peak and having that dominate for the period that it is active. I guess I've only used salvia like a primer for another trip (HBWs) once before and it seemed I came down from the salvia and then went back up 15-20mins latter on the HBWs, no real interaction (probably due to the longer onset of the HBWs).

Prior to taking the 0.8g I had been smoking dope too.

The lvl 5 component of the trip lasted perhaps 15-20mins, suggestive of interaction with other drugs, since a pure tryptamine lvl 5 trip portion should last maybe 1hr at least IMO.

Prior to taking the 0.8g I had been smoking dope too.

Maybe the threshold surfing generated a king wave. BTW I love adding up the different threshold type experiences. Can be truly pleasant. The sum is greater than the parts.  :mushroom2:


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