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Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now?
    #4625810 - 09/06/05 03:56 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

An unarmed 18-year-old Iraqi youth was beaten to death in a "gratuitous, unjustified and unprovoked" attack by seven British paratroopers, a court martial heard yesterday.

The soldiers used their "rifle butts, helmets, fists and feet" on Nadhem Abdullah al-Saqer and another man as they lay on the ground. Two women who tried to intervene, one pregnant and the other who had just given birth, were also attacked.

The men, members of the 3rd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, were said to have "walked away laughing and clapping" after vandalising a car and killing a pet dog.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article310561.ece


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Alex213]
    #4625829 - 09/06/05 04:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, you should be proud of your troops!


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: afoaf]
    #4625847 - 09/06/05 04:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

British scum.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: looner2]
    #4625861 - 09/06/05 04:10 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Sarcasm? Or would you say that if it were american troops who did that?


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4625880 - 09/06/05 04:14 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Sycronica said:
Sarcasm? Or would you say that if it were american troops who did that?




I'm just assuming the story is true. Would you not agree they are scum?

Why bring America into this? Yeah yeah I know, blood+oil, no WMD's... gotcha.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: looner2]
    #4625897 - 09/06/05 04:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I believe he asked that because you are a militant super-patriot with the attitude of "my country, right or wrong".

I believe if it was an American soldier who did somehting like that, you wouldn't have anything bad to say about them.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4625911 - 09/06/05 04:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe he asked that because you are a militant super-patriot with the attitude of "my country, right or wrong".

I believe if it was an American soldier who did somehting like that, you wouldn't have anything bad to say about them.




Just get back from your intro to psychology class? You're flattering.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: looner2]
    #4625919 - 09/06/05 04:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

I've never taken psychology. Everything I posted is evident to every member here just by reading your post. It has absolutely nothing to do with psychology.

So, would you criticize a US soldier who did something like that?


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4625932 - 09/06/05 04:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

/shrug...I thought it was a simple question.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4625935 - 09/06/05 04:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

lord no, he'd buy them a beer and recite the pledge.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: afoaf]
    #4625941 - 09/06/05 04:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

U.S troops have honor and values.

Britain has been sucking the teet of European scum like France and Germany for too long and hence find acts like this acceptable.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: looner2]
    #4625954 - 09/06/05 04:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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looner2 said:
U.S troops have honor and values.





My Lai Massacre ring a bell? Pretty much nothing was done about the aftermath of that horrible event.



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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4625961 - 09/06/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not listening.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4626094 - 09/06/05 05:28 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

People like him talk big, but are a minority in reality. I bet hes never been on the battlefield, but hes an expert on how American soliders conduct themselves on the battlefield.

im surprised he didn't post an editorial from some right wing propaganda news site as 'proof' that his opinion is the 'correct' one... lol


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Alex213]
    #4626101 - 09/06/05 05:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Most British are scumbags. More terrorism would cower them in fear.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: Alex213]
    #4626312 - 09/06/05 06:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Alex213 said:
An unarmed 18-year-old Iraqi youth was beaten to death in a "gratuitous, unjustified and unprovoked" attack by seven British paratroopers, a court martial heard yesterday.

The soldiers used their "rifle butts, helmets, fists and feet" on Nadhem Abdullah al-Saqer and another man as they lay on the ground. Two women who tried to intervene, one pregnant and the other who had just given birth, were also attacked.

The men, members of the 3rd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, were said to have "walked away laughing and clapping" after vandalising a car and killing a pet dog.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article310561.ece




I'm sure there are many other incidents like this perpetrated by US troops as well. A good friend of mine is in Iraq and witnessed a fellow solider shoot a unarmed, non-threatening Iraqi out of frustration. Was it reported? Yes. Did the brass do anything? No.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4626314 - 09/06/05 06:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalMystery said:
Most British are scumbags. More terrorism would cower them in fear.




how old are you?


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: looner2]
    #4626324 - 09/06/05 06:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

honor and values like abu ghraib?


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: afoaf]
    #4626341 - 09/06/05 06:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

honor and values like abu ghraib?

You knew I fully intended to see that right?

Too bad I couldn't think of anything in that timespan.


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Re: Iraqis, what does "freedom" look like to you now? [Re: looner2]
    #4626412 - 09/06/05 07:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You could always just stick your fingers in your ears and go:

"lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala"


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