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OfflineRylmonkey
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What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE?
    #4625655 - 09/06/05 03:04 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

well i finished off my Brf cakes and they came out pretty nice. lol, i did 40 1/2 pint jars and all of them came out nicely. i'm gonna start off some liquid culture. but i'm thinking about spawning in quart jars this time with either WBS or Rye. whats better? and what brands do u guys recommend. also what kind of straw is good for bulk? if you guys can hit me up with a link or a store to go too that would be great.
thanks for taking my noob questions. i think i just suck at searching post.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Rylmonkey]
    #4625660 - 09/06/05 03:05 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Wbs its cheaper easier to find and has less bacterial indospores.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625662 - 09/06/05 03:06 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Rye has more tyrphans and colonizes wonderfully...If you can get it cheap...like perhaps from a farmer maybe? Then I'd go with it...

Other wise, Wbs is the way to go.

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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4625714 - 09/06/05 03:20 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I can find rye nice and cheap at a place called wild oats near me.

PCing up a batch as we speak :wink:. Go for whatever you can find / afford. Rye isn't always easy to find, but if you can find both, try both!


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Ramuh]
    #4625726 - 09/06/05 03:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

WBS is expensive for me. I use wheat which Stamets says is as good as rye. Next I will use barley which is high in tryptophan.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Ramuh]
    #4625730 - 09/06/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It also depends on what you are going to do with it, Rye is better if you are going to do straight grain casings, WBS is better to use as spawn because it breaks up smaller once colonized.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625765 - 09/06/05 03:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I say use wild bird seed.  Make sure it has alot of white kernels in it *millet* the ones with lots of black seeds will work but the whole point is to use the millet. 

Also you use Wheat Straw,  And Docs wild bird seed tek  IS ONE OF THE BEST TEKS OUT THERE.  And the straw teks are in the above menu under BULK and ADVANCED.    Search CrazyChemist Grow Log EQ    For some inspiration.  :mushroom2:


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: PooGrower]
    #4625793 - 09/06/05 03:50 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

wal mart penningtons brand wild bird feed 20 lbs for 9 bucks.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625816 - 09/06/05 03:59 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i get rye berries for .48cents a lb at my local coop shop.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625820 - 09/06/05 04:00 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I like rye better than WBS.  WBS was giving me problems with wetspot as it was difficult for me to drain totaly for some reason.  So I just switched to rye.  50lbs. for $7.50 at the grain co-op.  But I've been tossing verm into the grain so I haven't had too much of a problem with wetspot lately. 

I've heard rye has a higher tryptophan content than WBS, but a lot of the more experienced people here use WBS.  I suppose if you want to spawn to poo either will work. 

Follow Agar's tek, though--you really don't need to simmer grain, in my experience.  Just soak 18-24 hours, maybe change the water once with warmer water during the soak.  The grain should expand fine and have plenty of moisture for the myc.  :stoned:


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Bobo]
    #4625903 - 09/06/05 04:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the super quick reply's guys i think i'm gonna go for WBS because i'm gonna try to spawn in straw. it will be easier for me to get too. thanks for the help guys!

now i just gotta figure out whats a good fruiting chamber for bulk! i was thinking about making a martha fruiting chamber but i heard it's bad for bulk just good for cakes. any ideas on a good fruting chamber besides the little green houses? don't wanna start up another post.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Rylmonkey]
    #4625940 - 09/06/05 04:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

4 poles. Some duct tape. Some plastic sheeting. Bulk should provide most of its own moisture and as long as the containers are sitting off the ground and the casing layer is pretty even with the lid of the container, you shouldn't have too much trouble with C02 build-up during fruiting. Fan and mist a couple of times a day. That's about it.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Bobo]
    #4625947 - 09/06/05 04:29 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

thanks man i'll get right too it!


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Rylmonkey]
    #4625962 - 09/06/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, the big greenhouses.

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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Rylmonkey]
    #4625976 - 09/06/05 04:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

think i'll go by home depot and get those plastic shelves and wrap it up with plastic sheeting and i'll buy a clip fan and put it in there. if low moisture becomes a problem ill get a cheap humidifier from wal-mart.
or just put a tray of moist perlite at the bottom.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Rylmonkey]
    #4626027 - 09/06/05 05:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

By the time you go through all that. And buy the shelves, plastic and all, you'll wind up spending more money and time then if you bought a greenhouse. I set mine up , everything included, for $40,



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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4626136 - 09/06/05 05:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I've used an old cabinet for bulk before. :shrug:  The only problem was that I lined it with plastic and tried to keep it very humid.  Then mold got all over the wooden interior under the plastic.  So I had to clean it well and then I just put the trays back into the cabinet, misted them and fanned them a couple of times a day.  It worked okay.  I've actually had problems with too much humidity with bulk when the trays are in plastic enclosures.  But I've seen some pics here of the better growers who look like they have a decent amount of humidity in their bulk chambers.  :shrug:  Dunno.  You can get by with very little if you want.  You won't have spectacular results but, if you're looking to go on the cheap cheap, it can work all right.


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Bobo]
    #4626860 - 09/06/05 08:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

ok fine you guys convinced me. just got back from homedepot with all the stuff, come to read new post, go back to homedepot to return all the crap. went to local garden center and bought that same greenhouse for 47 bucks. I actually saved 10 bucks from getting the greenhouse instead of making my own. lol. Thanks for the help guys!


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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: Rylmonkey]
    #4627015 - 09/06/05 09:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Can't wait to see it all set up.

Good Luck and have fun :grin:

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Re: What do you guys recommend WBS or RYE? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4627311 - 09/06/05 10:32 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Rye without a doubt!


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