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Tiny shrooms???
    #4624906 - 09/06/05 11:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I have an awesome flush of shrooms coming up on cased wbs the only thing is they are very thin and from the looks of them so far they are going to be short. The substrate depth is 4 in and I have a tray of cased poo next to it the same thing is happening. What causes this Ive never had such little shrooms before.


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4624908 - 09/06/05 11:05 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

how deep is the casing, what temps, air exchange, strain. all the info will help


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: blackout]
    #4624940 - 09/06/05 11:17 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

WBs = 1/4 in moist vermiculite, 3 in WBS, 1/4 casing layer made of peat, verm, calcium carb powder, this is my usual setup and I have great results.

Poo = 1/4 in verm, 4 in colonized poo, 1/4 in casing same formula
I give them 4-5 fannings a day with a very light mist 2 times a day.
Temp is 75 degrees, 90 - 95 % humidity. Strain is cambodian


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4624948 - 09/06/05 11:23 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

How big (volume) are the casings themselves? Depth is an important factor, but it's no help if you still have a small base to draw from. Ex: 4 inches is great, but if the substrate only fills a solo cup, you're going to get small shrooms regardless.


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4624955 - 09/06/05 11:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The WBS is in a 10 in round bowl, and the poo is in a 8 x 12 sterilite type.


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4624956 - 09/06/05 11:27 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm, that should be enough to throw out some good sized shrooms then. Both substrates were 100% colonized all around when you cased it, correct?


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4624967 - 09/06/05 11:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, fully colonized, I have been using this same method for last couple of months with good results

this is an older pic but the start of my method here. My camera broke.
This bowl of wbs is the best pinset Ive ever had I can barley even see the casing because there are so many pins clumped together the only thing is they are about 4 days old 2 in tall and about as big around as yarn. they are just soooo tiny.


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625222 - 09/06/05 01:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

when you say 1/4, are you speaking in inches or in total volume? if thats inches, then your casing layer needs to be thicker, at least 1".


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625336 - 09/06/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You've grown this strain before, and the mushrooms have been bigger?


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #4625386 - 09/06/05 01:42 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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You've grown this strain before, and the mushrooms have been bigger?



Yes this is the first strain I grew and Ive been hooked on it ever since, thease shrooms are 1/4 of the size I normally grow.


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625398 - 09/06/05 01:44 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

In fact if you look at the picture I posted in my reply all of the shrooms on the two casings are the size of those tiny ones surounding the bigger ones in pic.


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625501 - 09/06/05 02:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i have tiny shrooms also..

it is becuase of the ratio of sub. casing.

you said you have 4inches of sub, with 1/4 inch of casing. sounds good to me :confused: i had an inch of sub, with 2inches of casing...bad idea


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625795 - 09/06/05 03:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I've had a similar experience. Though I hadn't grown them before, I was really dissapointed when my Amazons looked like this:


Then rather rapidly, they opened up:



What I had failed to take into account was how dense the flush was:


The density compensated for the size.
- You can see that I also had a short substrate depth, which I'm sure contributed, because I use a taller substrate depth now, and the shrooms are taller (though less dense).


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #4625802 - 09/06/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

So if Im pinning really densly the fruits will be smaller, hmmmmmm this makes me want to do roadkills fruiting straight off of poo thing.


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Re: Tiny shrooms??? [Re: djsage420]
    #4625815 - 09/06/05 03:58 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I'll be very curious to see (or at least hear) how your stuff turns out.


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