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What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi?
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I have one of those Martha Stewart closets with a set of stacking plastic shelves in it and I want to grow Reishi.

What is the best brand of humidifier that produces a good "condensing fog" like the one you need to initiate pinning on Reishi?

I bought some kind of "cool mist" humidifier that had a wick in it. I think i need something that will actually atomize the water and produce a real mist or fog.

Is it a Vicks Coolmist I'm looking for?


Also, I'm going to get condensation on the sides of the Martha. I need to find something to catch that or my carpet is going to have fungus growing in it.


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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I've had nothing but trouble with those wick-based humidifiers--  they SUCK.  There's no way you can get a condensing fog with them.  I highly recommend an ultrasonic variety.  I've used two Vicks ultrasonics on two setups and they have been working great.  I wire in a humidistat into the circuit so I can dial in just what I need for the species I have in the chamber.  For connecting the unit to the grow setup, I take a plastic party drinking cup, cut the bottom out, feed some pool pump hosing through it, seal with duct tape, plug this make-shift adapter into the output hole in the top of the humidifier, and then run the other end of the hose into my chamber.

To avoid ruining my closet, I took some modular shelving and sealed the top, back, sides, and bottom with heavy plastic.  For the front I fashioned plastic access flaps with zippers on the side and loose velcro attachments on the bottoms to allow for some air exchange.  I fit it with a small HEPA filter on a timer up on the top, hooked up the humidifier/humidistat, rolled the whole thing into the closet, popped a light or two on top of/next to, and voila a fog chamber without damaging your Martha.  :thumbup:


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Basidiocarp]
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Is there any tek to automatically fill the coolmist with water every few days?

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: wideweb]
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wideweb said:
Is there any tek to automatically fill the coolmist with water every few days?

  :shiftyeyes:

If you want that automatic and advanced, I suggest that you build a professional mushroom farm and hire a staff.  I certainly have not found having to fill my humidifier every few days to be a real drain on my physical or mental resources...  If anything it keeps me focused on taking care of my chamber.  :cool:


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Basidiocarp]
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Sorry but I will be away for two weeks and I don't want anyone helping me in this task.

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: wideweb]
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I figured it would be something like that... Two weeks is a long time with no attention. Any autofill mechanism would probably have to involve real plumbing into the house water supply, safety-cut-offs, yadda yadda for that length of time. With the Vicks you could try stacking multiple containers one on top of another, each draining into the next. At some unknown height threshold, though, the added pressure will start forcing water out of the sides of the bottom unit I'm sure... That would be your limiting factor.


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Basidiocarp]
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I have no access to a vicks stacking humidifier.

There was a thread here describing how to use submerge-able ultrasonic humidifier. I bought one and it died after two days. Oh well.

Is it possible to drip water into the output hole in the top of the coolmist humidifier, using the dripping computer I use for my garden? This way I can drip 1 liter a day, which is about the consumption of the humidifier. I am not sure what to do in case of overflow, it will flood the electronic parts of the humidifier.

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: wideweb]
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well, there is a small pump, called the flojet, that normally is in a 5 gal jug of water, you could fit it to your humidifier, and plug it into a timer in the outlet, but you would have to get a good digital timer,
and figure out how much to pump, and when,
http://watershed.net/flojet-wp.htm

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: rod]
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All of these make-shift implementations certainly would have me sweating every day I was away on vacation: Did it overflow? Is my room flooded? Was there an electrical fire? Did the fire department have to bust in and find.........?

For me it wouldn't be worth the stress/risk. I try to do low-maintainence things if I know I might be away, like incubate grain or agar. I've also successfully refrigerated grain spawn of many edibles for quite a while in order to buy myself some extra time so that my growing schedules would match my life schedules.


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: wideweb]
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I'd just put them in the refrigerator.


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Basidiocarp]
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Is the Vicks Cool Mist an ultrasonic, or is that a different unit entirely?


Are we talking about a $40 humidifier?


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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hi Baby_Hitler,
you should use a ultrasonic humidifier. The important thing is this: to connect your chamber with the humidifier don't use a long tube. More short is the tube and better is. With the ultrasonic humidifier the fog is insured. The tube of the humidifier should be connected on the high part of your chamber and the humidifier should be placed more high that your chamber.
To catch the water on the bottom make a little hole and put under a pot. Your humidifier shouldn't be turned on all the time, because the "fog" remain generically for a some hours. Remember to empty the pot!!!

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: wideweb]
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wideweb said:
Is there any tek to automatically fill the coolmist with water every few days?


This has been done numerous time in the fishkeeping hobby.
Pretty much all you need is a float switch, reservoir, pump, and tubing.
The hardest thing to come by is the float switch which can be found here prewired with relay http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_miscellaneous_ultralife_float_switch.asp?ast=&key=

or here where you will have to add your own relayhttp://www.floatswitches.net/

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Basidiocarp]
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Basidiocarp said:
I've had nothing but trouble with those wick-based humidifiers--  they SUCK.  There's no way you can get a condensing fog with them.  I highly recommend an ultrasonic variety.  I've used two Vicks ultrasonics on two setups and they have been working great.  I wire in a humidistat into the circuit so I can dial in just what I need for the species I have in the chamber.  For connecting the unit to the grow setup, I take a plastic party drinking cup, cut the bottom out, feed some pool pump hosing through it, seal with duct tape, plug this make-shift adapter into the output hole in the top of the humidifier, and then run the other end of the hose into my chamber.

To avoid ruining my closet, I took some modular shelving and sealed the top, back, sides, and bottom with heavy plastic.  For the front I fashioned plastic access flaps with zippers on the side and loose velcro attachments on the bottoms to allow for some air exchange.  I fit it with a small HEPA filter on a timer up on the top, hooked up the humidifier/humidistat, rolled the whole thing into the closet, popped a light or two on top of/next to, and voila a fog chamber without damaging your Martha.  :thumbup:



I'm essentially where baby_hitler is: I'm going to buy shelves for my reishi fruiting chamber, as my grain bags are nearly colonized and I'm going to spawn them to wood. 

Does an ultrasonic provide FAE?  Do you need a HEPA-filtered air-supply on top of that? 

And how many hours would you run the ultrasonic into the fruiting chamber?  I think someone posted that Stamets avoids Trich by fluctuating the humidity?? 

Reishi seems to be very reactive to environmental changes....


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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If you'd be satisifed with antlers instead of conks, you don't need the condensing fog per ggmc. A vicks coolmist (with the motor and spinning disk) can be put on a humidistat and set to 80% and antlers will form just fine. That's how these were grown. I left for two and a half weeks while the below was flushing. By using two coolmists connected to the same humidistat, they only run for a few minutes per hour to maintain 80% in my 4' X 8' X 8' greenhouse.
RR


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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Well, I had 10 jars and 5 of them contaminated.


All from the same load in the cooker too.

It's been a week, and there is hardly any growth in the good jars.

How long should it take Reishi to colonize a quart of WBS?


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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When using live mycelium, quart jars of rye colonize in a week at normal room temperature. Reishi is one of the fastest growing myceliums I've ever worked with.
RR


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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Hmmm, this is also my first time with WBS. I suspect it may be too dry.


Does reishi normally recover quickly after shaking?


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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RogerRabbit said:
If you'd be satisifed with antlers instead of conks, you don't need the condensing fog per ggmc. A vicks coolmist (with the motor and spinning disk) can be put on a humidistat and set to 80% and antlers will form just fine. That's how these were grown. I left for two and a half weeks while the below was flushing. By using two coolmists connected to the same humidistat, they only run for a few minutes per hour to maintain 80% in my 4' X 8' X 8' greenhouse.
RR




I've heard conflicting views of the difference in fruitbody mass between conchs and antlers. Do you get a larger total mass with conchs?


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: GnuBobo]
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GnuBobo said:
I've heard conflicting views of the difference in fruitbody mass between conchs and antlers.  Do you get a larger total mass with conchs?


Oh yes, a much much larger.. and you also get that real messy sporeload then..  :laugh:
Conks with spores are usually valued higher..

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Speeker]
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So...if one were to set up an ideal fogged environment for reishi conch formation, you'd use an ultrasonic in an enclosed area as the antlers develop, then add FAE like with a coolmist?


Sorry...Stamets has good information, but implementing his designs aren't easy for a the home-based grower. Cheers.


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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: GnuBobo]
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I'm not so sure you really get that much more from conks. Take a look at the coffee can grow above. A block that size in Stamets greenhouse with mist nozzles going would have one or two conks on it. All those antlers easily add up to the mass of two conks. The main consideration from my standpoint is I can't get a misting fog 24/7 without ruining the house due to the fact my mini-greenhouse is in my bedroom. If you have an outdoor greenhouse or buiding for your grow, go for it. You can also get spores from the antlers. The very tip where they're white is the surface that will drop the spores.
RR

Edited to change the word 'conks' to 'antlers'. Brain farted while typing. We all know conks drop spores. I meant to say the antlers do too if you're patient and wait for them.


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Edited by RogerRabbit (09/24/05 07:28 AM)

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Re: What brand of humidifier should I get for growing Reishi? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
Hmmm, this is also my first time with WBS. I suspect it may be too dry.


Does reishi normally recover quickly after shaking?


I mashed the hell out of my spawnbags 2 days ago...the shit is recovering really fast.  Almost ready to be spawned.  I :heart: reishi mycelium.


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