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Re: weed shots [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4680828 - 09/19/05 04:27 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

mmm i dont suppose i could get any of you to harves some seed from one o them poison ivy's?


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Re: weed shots [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4681421 - 09/19/05 12:33 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i can send you a cutting, ive grown them twoce before, once they florished, another time they just died, but not before dropping leaves on my sofa, and came in contact with my bare genitilia causing me to think i got an STD.

i immagine just a peice of vine with a root and a bud should be enough to start a plant.



what you planning on having it for?


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Re: weed shots [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4681734 - 09/19/05 02:01 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

oh, i dunno... emergencies i guess, lol

anyways its not a good season for cutting right now, maybe ill
ask again next spring...


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Re: weed shots [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4682988 - 09/19/05 07:20 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

update.
they were sitting in water this evening, ophelia dumped so much water i reckon they will have their feet wet for a few days, but it shouldnt be too terrible.

nice buds on them.







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Re: weed shots [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4683803 - 09/19/05 10:28 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

those look real nice...actually they look like they are at teh same stage as my plants are at...so I'm curious how long do u think till they are ready? heres a pic of mine



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Re: weed shots [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #4684484 - 09/20/05 12:30 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

only trichomes will tell, but realistically i would say 2-3 weeks left before it starts frosting here
ideally 4 more weeks would make a good finish


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Re: weed shots [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4684700 - 09/20/05 01:10 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

so u pick after the frost?


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Re: weed shots [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #4685292 - 09/20/05 07:00 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I think he means frosty trichs :smile: Are you two growing across the field from one another? Hehe...pics look very similar.


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Re: weed shots [Re: Organic]
    #4685293 - 09/20/05 07:03 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ya I know eh? lol...when I first saw his pics I was a lil concerned :P


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Re: weed shots [Re: Organic]
    #4685529 - 09/20/05 11:05 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

no, i pick when they are ready, OR when its too cold for them to live, whichever comes first.

the tiny hairs have little bubbles at the tips, these are trichomes.

they have clear fluid that becomes cloudy torawds mautrity.

fully mature trichomes are amber.  as newer growth occurs, old growth matures, when the rate of new growth slows, the maturity catches up to the young stuff, and when 50% or more of trichomes are amber, then its ready to cure.

curing is easy. people make it complicated and do it wrong.

first, god sakes dont dry the weed.  yuck! dry weed! all that work for choke-podwer.

personally i simply hang it in my dank basement.  its about 60-75% humidity, so the plants slowly die, pulling life from the plant into the reproductive parts, making the plant sticky, and sweet.  it doesnt quite dry, it stays dank, but not at all wet, and very smokable.

once cured (large plants take a week or two, average plants take only a few days)  i remove bud and pack it into jars for freezing untill needed.  properly cured pot does not "freeze" it just sits very cold.

leaf and other material can be frozen and put to icewater for hard mixing, and micron filtering.  the cold breaks the trichomes, then they float in the water and can be filtered out.  you can get bubble hash screens at most headshops.
they can get expensive, but are WELL worth it if youre growing alot of plants.

i am not growing alot of plants, i have like 2, and only half of it is mine :frown:

luckily i smoke weed maybe a couple times a month.
i can make this small ammount stretch a while if i budget it.

next year im going to use the same sweet spot  and a few others i found to grow enough to last the year comfortably.

might even get a screen kit.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm, hash! you know what i mean!


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Re: weed shots [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4685916 - 09/20/05 01:58 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ya man I"m growing a lot next year as well...I wanna get an indoor setup going(nothing too complex at first tho) and I'd like to have clones for next season(not sure if this is a realistic amount of time or not to get a good female) if not I'll just buy the clones again...they are readily available at planting time cause this area is known for outdoor growing(good soil, good climate and lots of places to grow)

EDIT: oh and just outta curiousity how do u go about curing? I was planning to use jars(seems like the most common method)


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Re: weed shots [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4685929 - 09/20/05 02:04 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've always referred to what you do in the basement as drying. Curing is then putting the dried buds into jars to sweat out the remaining 3-5% moisture and improve the flavors and enhance the cannabanoid profile. Do your buds have any grassy taste since they go straight to the freezer with no jar time?


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Re: weed shots [Re: Organic]
    #4685969 - 09/20/05 02:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

hmmm, that how you do it? your stuff must get pretty dry.

its only "drying" when you hang them in a dry place to dry,

i hang in a dark humid place to let them die slowly, pulling out all the sugars into the tips. sugars keep it preserved.

at least thats what ive been told, correct me if this is a flawed meathod.

i find it works so good tho. and i like the taste of what i get. i like it when it feels fresh, but still burns even.


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Re: weed shots [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4686085 - 09/20/05 02:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Nah, not dry, I can pretty well control the moisture. The humidity stays at about 70% with periodic drops and stuff dries in ~4 days. This is buds hanging upside down on their stalks...I consider it dead when I cut it off the plant base, but I see what you're saying.

Put it in the jar while its a little moist when you squeeze and put it in a dark place. For the first couple of days, open up your jars and check the moisture. Lay them out to dry more if they are too moist. After a few days of "sweating" them like this, they'll be at a comfortable moisture level to jar them up in complete darkness with no worries of mold. This is the method I've read is the most efficient (books, overgrow, etc), and at about 4-6 months, the chlorophyll will be broken down into more palatable compounds, and your buds will be smoother. The cannabanoid profile will also change a bit for the better.

Some of the best bud I've smoked was done exactly as you do it, so I don't doubt its great :smile: Different methods but good results from both.


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Re: weed shots [Re: Organic]
    #4686368 - 09/20/05 04:30 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I read on overgrow that there is a precursor to thc(which is inactive on its own) that is converted to thc during curing making the weed more potent..I take it thats the profile change your talking about


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Re: weed shots [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #4686413 - 09/20/05 04:44 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

There are many chemical processes going on with cannabanoids during the cure other than Delta-9-THC. Some of it is degradation for the worst (the more psychedelic THCs seem to become more laid back), but overall your bud will improve. Not markedly in potency, but it will be more enjoyable than fresh off the dried brach imo.

This bud was cured for ~5 years. It was harvested about a week premature with about 70%milky trichs. After 5 years, the trichs were golden/red under a 30x loupe. After about a year I would say, the chems start degrading more rapidly and it becomes more like hash, very narcotic. 4-12 months is prime smoking :smile: But longer periods are worth trying, because even after 5 years this bud kicked my ass :smile:




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Re: weed shots [Re: Organic]
    #4686478 - 09/20/05 05:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I was just going by what I read in the growfaq over a overgrow...I don't know much about growing/harvesting/curing weed yet :smile:


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Re: weed shots [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #4686934 - 09/20/05 07:10 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for posting that :smile:


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