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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Ego Death]
    #4661010 - 09/14/05 04:01 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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danoEoboy said:
Point 4: If nobody believes me, after all the credible witnesses and all the civilian witnesses, the video's and the radar activity, the fact they are visible practically every night, then I know I will never convince these people. They will have to see it for theirselves.



Many of those videos have been proven frauds, while other videos and eyewitness accounts are too vague to come the conclusion that they are caused by extraterrestrial phenomena, and in fact most of them have very rational explanations. The tiny percentage of them that remain unexplained are simply that -- unexplained. There is no reason to think that they have anything to do with aliens.

But frankly, I don't know any of the witnesses or people who've taken videos, and have no way of knowing how honest or perceptive they are. What I'm interested in is your evidence. You claim to see them every night? Get a camera or video and SHOW US! And don't arrogantly assume that anyone can see them by gazing up at the night sky. For all I know, you may simply not educated enough to discern a military aircraft from a flying saucer(don't worry -- millions of UFO eyewitnesses are the same way). They only way I'll know is if you show us.


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Ego Death]
    #4661027 - 09/14/05 04:04 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

About UFOs? I doubt it. But Tibet is a beautiful place, except for those Chinese guys in those boring uniforms. The Tibetans (since the invasion) have been coming to see us to find out if they can learn anything. So far I would say it's hard for them to get out of there old beliefs. But a few recognize the Universality of spirit.


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Icelander]
    #4664798 - 09/15/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Not about UFOs LOL!

About the soul, maybe...

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Silversoul]
    #4664825 - 09/15/05 12:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

THEY WON'T FOCUS!!!

As I keep saying, if somebody can tell me of a camera that can film the night sky, a large portion of it (reference points=more provable) then I would certainly invest.

I have an entire thread here asking why I can't get the common vid cams to focus on the sky.

I assume it is because they are cheap and prolly nasty. I would need some big money to get some seriouse kit, which, still prolly wiuldn't prove shit except that I see them.

Swarmi would still just claim that they are plasma balls or something.

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Ego Death]
    #4664829 - 09/15/05 12:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

My subtle sense of humor. :tongue: :grin:


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Ego Death]
    #4665922 - 09/15/05 03:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

THEY WON'T FOCUS!!!

Most cameras have a manual focus mode. Turn on that mode, then manually focus the lens on something far, like a star, the moon, or a distant building. This is the lens' infinity focus. Leave it set there and fire away.

As long as the object doesn't get closer than about 100 feet, you won't need to change the focus.


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Diploid]
    #4668742 - 09/16/05 05:58 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Diploid said:

There are thousands of witnesses of unearthly flying objects made by such pilots.

Thousands of witnesses of unearthly flying objects from airline pilots, eh? That's a lot. Can you provide sources? Should be easy given the large numbers.




do your own homework, find them yourself.

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Defense Department, recognizing that airline pilots have special training and are in a unique position for observation, includes them in the military system of reporting vital intelligence sightings

Now you're just making up bullshit. I may not be an airline pilot, but I know aviation and count dozens of airline pilots among my friends. I would know.

Geez... :shake:




The military system of reporting vital intelligence sightings called CIRVIS, is detailed in the Joint Chiefs regulation JANAP-146(D).


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: exclusive58]
    #4668758 - 09/16/05 06:17 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

do your own homework, find them yourself

This is classic Shroomery. Make up some bullshit, then when someone asks for sources, refuse to provide any.

The military system of reporting vital intelligence sightings called CIRVIS, is detailed in the Joint Chiefs regulation JANAP-146(D)

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Did you know that, the Defense Department, recognizing that airline pilots have special training and are in a unique position for observation, includes them in the military system of reporting vital intelligence sightings?




JANAP-146(D) does not even contain the words 'airline' or 'airliner'. :syringe:


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

Edited by Diploid (09/16/05 07:23 AM)

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Diploid]
    #4668759 - 09/16/05 06:19 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Diploid said:
JANAP-146(D) does not even contain the words 'airline' or 'airliner'. :syringe:




:shocked:

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: exclusive58]
    #4669018 - 09/16/05 09:46 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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exclusive58 said:
do your own homework, find them yourself.



Are you aware of a concept known as the burden of proof?


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Silversoul]
    #4673044 - 09/17/05 03:51 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

do you know something called google?

anyway, witnesses aren't considered as proof right?

so go ahead and just ignore all the witnesses you may find, had you spent only but a second looking for them.

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Diploid]
    #4673062 - 09/17/05 04:10 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Diploid said:

JANAP-146(D) does not even contain the words 'airline' or 'airliner'. :syringe:




So you just found a copy of the regulation on the net, and searched to see if the words airline or airliner weren't in there huh? no need to look any further huh?


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GENERAL DESCRIPTION AND PURPOSE OF COMMUNICATIONS INSTRUCTIONS FOR REPORTING VITAL INTELLIGENCE SIGHTINGS

101.? Purpose. - The purpose of this publication is to provide uniform instructions for the peacetime reporting of vital intelligence sightings and to provide communications instructions for the passing of these intelligence reports to appropriate military authorities.

a.? This publication is limited to the reporting of information of vital importance to the security of the United States of America and Canada and their forces, which in the opinion of the observer, requires very urgent defensive and/or investigative action by the US and/or Canadian Armed Forces.

????? b.? The procedures contained in this publication are provided for :

????????? (1)? US and Canadian civil and commercial aircraft.

????????? (2)? US and Canadian government and military aircraft other than those operating under
???????????????? separate reporting directives.

????????? (3)? US and Canadian merchant vessels operating under US and Canadian registry.

????????? (4)? US and Canadian government and military vessels other than those operating under
???????????????? separate reporting directives.

????????? (5)? Certain other US and Canadian vessels including fishing vessels.

????????? (6)? Military installations receiving reports from civilian or military land based or waterborne
???????????????? observers unless operating under separate reporting directives.

????????? (7)? Government and civilian agencies which may initiate reports on receipt of information
???????????????? from land-based, airborne or waterborne observers.









can you now please stop telling me i'm making up bullshit and can you stop directing smileys such as these :nonono: :rolleyes:  :syringe: at me? there's really no need for that.

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: exclusive58]
    #4673741 - 09/17/05 11:02 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

That's JANAP-146(E), not (D), but be that as it may, Commercial and Civil pilots in the US are governed by the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) part 91 and 121, not by JANAP.

JANAP apparently also applies to everything, including merchant vessels, fishing vessels, and even civilian agencies. So from this I gather that JANAP applies to the Girl Scouts (civilian agencies) too.


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: exclusive58]
    #4673776 - 09/17/05 11:15 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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exclusive58 said:
do you know something called google?



Yes. Are you aware of the burden of proof? If you make a claim, back it up. Don't be a chickenshit and tell others to google it. YOU google it.


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Silversoul]
    #4673835 - 09/17/05 11:34 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

:rofl2: Yous guys cracks me ups. :cuckoo:


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Icelander]
    #4674422 - 09/17/05 03:01 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Ive had a very intense ufo sighting with a good friend in high school.
We were on some really real acid and lots of it, but we both saw it, and ran like hell.
We may have projected this at the same time because of our seemingly inevitable coarse of conversation lead to it. However, if it wasnt real, it still was a confrontation with something real inside of us both. An archetype that was fully uncovered at the time. It was in the distance for some time and then its three green lights hovered over us within ten feet and was about the size of the elementary school we had been chilling at. I ran and so did my friend but he lagged behind. I have never been so scared in my life.
I can still say we may have been young, but we were definately on to something big. (and beleive that the ufo or its human archetype was checking in on us). This was probably at the same time t. mckenna was writing about this stuff in the jungle, or may have been around the time his book"true hallucinations" came out. I read this book in later life, and was stunned. I picked that book up probably about 100 times and never picked it up (right side up)(Cause I never use a book mark). We, as high school students were infact intelligent creatures and very articulate. LSd lead us into 4 years of synchronicity, the very thing T mckenna writes about in his books.
This is why we saw it(the ufo), we know this, but wouldnt bother convincing anyone. Just thought this may interest some of you.

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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Diploid]
    #4682374 - 09/19/05 02:36 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Diploid said:
THEY WON'T FOCUS!!!

Most cameras have a manual focus mode. Turn on that mode, then manually focus the lens on something far, like a star, the moon, or a distant building. This is the lens' infinity focus. Leave it set there and fire away.





Yeah lol,
then you get those blurry videos that are all over the Internet, you know the ones that you guys say are proof of nothing.

Try again, as we've come full circle!


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: stemmer]
    #4682380 - 09/19/05 02:38 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Oh look yet another witness. Here let me feed your ego's - He must want attention or something.


I'm sure you will all have him bullied into line soon, so that he speaks honestly no more and withholds the forbidden truths.


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: Ego Death]
    #4685579 - 09/20/05 09:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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danoEoboy said:
Something else is that most of my friends can't see them, until I point them out!





lol funny how when you tell someone they see something, they see it.

record a video clip/take a photo, should be easy for you if you see them every night


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Re: I can see at least one UFO every night! & so can u! [Re: n0xious]
    #4685805 - 09/20/05 11:01 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Read the thread (or page 12),
I covered that already... :rolleyes:

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