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 A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions 
#4615427 - 09/03/05 03:47 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't know if this has been posted before. If it has... read it again.
This was sent to me by a friend. This Dr. wrote this to his sister:
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I just got back from helping in N.O. at the Superdome. TV news reports
look like Disneyland compared to how it really is at "ground zero." They
couldn't get any doctors to go because people were shooting at the
helicopters and it wasn't a safe place. Unfortunately, all of the people
who didn't evacuate and had to go to the dome were the poorest of the
population and also the sickest with the most medical problems. We saved
a lot of them but we had to be evacuated around 2am this morning because
a couple of medics were shot by civilian snipers. There are about 20,000
people still stranded in the dome and no way to get them out because of
the flooding. The toilets don't work, the lights don't work, the air
conditioning doesn't work, they can't smoke or drink and people are just
feeling like caged animals led to slaughter.
Dead people are floating in the streets everywhere. They are expecting
the death toll to be more than 50,000. There were three rapes in the
dome yeasterday, one was a seven year old girl. Child molesters,
convicts and very desperate people who can no longer smoke, drink, or
watch Dr. Phil and Oprah. It is truly the wild wild west.
One of the civilians grabbed the M-16 of one of the MPs and shot
someone.
There are people being stabbed every so often. Babies being born in
front of everyone. People having seizures, hypertensive strokes, heart
attacks, etc. because we are out of supplies, IVs, medicine, breathing
treatments, etc.
No semblance of order whatsoever. A very desperate situation. There
were only three of us (doctors) there all day yesterday with about 10
medics but we were forced to evacuate early this morning because the
conditions had deteriorated so severely that it was not safe to be
anywhere around there.
I am in Lafayette now, working. The phone service is hit and miss and I
can only get internet from work. We cannot send any outgoing messages
sometimes.
Peace
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Noviseer]
#4615459 - 09/03/05 04:12 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can we get a link to this please? It sounds REALLY far-fetched that a doctor saw this, but noone's got it on the news yet. a 7 year old girl was raped, but NO other news agency talks about it. Guardsmen having their weapons stolen, but noone else mentions is. i'm not even saying that it's not possible, I just hven't heard it ANYWHERE else.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: MagicalMystery]
#4615464 - 09/03/05 04:16 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i bet all these storied are fake...
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: AliceDee]
#4615658 - 09/03/05 08:12 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've actually heard of several news agencies and people talking about rapes, and those of small children, expecially in the bathrooms.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: doubledog2]
#4615680 - 09/03/05 08:22 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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doubledog2 said:
I've actually heard of several news agencies and people talking about rapes, and those of small children, expecially in the bathrooms.
I am not trying to hear that.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Learyfan]
#4615785 - 09/03/05 09:10 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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sounds like BS to me. link please.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Noviseer]
#4615848 - 09/03/05 09:32 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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sweet!
I love a good internet chain letter!
It's good to see there's still internet access under water!
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: ShroomArtist84]
#4615858 - 09/03/05 09:35 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomArtist84 said:
sounds like BS to me. link please.
Why would it be BS? What do you think is happening down there? Everyone is being nice and orderly and obeying the law? You must not be living on earth.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Mighty Bop]
#4615925 - 09/03/05 10:07 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah Seriously. All these threads that have been going on the past few days.. and now you guys are calling BS on a doctor's take on the situation? 
Never expect the news to tell you the whole truth.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: MagicalMystery]
#4615932 - 09/03/05 10:09 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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MagicalMystery said:
Can we get a link to this please? It sounds REALLY far-fetched that a doctor saw this, but noone's got it on the news yet. a 7 year old girl was raped, but NO other news agency talks about it. Guardsmen having their weapons stolen, but noone else mentions is. i'm not even saying that it's not possible, I just hven't heard it ANYWHERE else.
are you familar with the concept of a "chaotic situation"?
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4615975 - 09/03/05 10:29 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shroomism said:
Yeah Seriously. All these threads that have been going on the past few days.. and now you guys are calling BS on a doctor's take on the situation?
Never expect the news to tell you the whole truth.
We're not supposed to take the news' word for it, but instead
you're suggesting we should pay heed to an uncited internet
chain letter that I have now received FUCKING TWICE from
different senders!?
Good thing that all my friends are also friends with this very
doctor.
If this is legit, please post your mail headers, feel free to
strip out the 5 layers of embedded >> from the forwards!
Thanks!
You tools just want to believe what you want to believe.
http://www.deepdarksee.com/
I like how everyone prefaces this with:
"I know where this email came from...I trust my friends
who sent it to me."
PS. Lafayette, LA is about halfway between NO and
Houston. It's good to see that a cardiac surgeon
from Lafayette is able to give us first hand accounts
of what's going on in New Orleans...or did he travel
through the storm to get to NOLA just so he could be
smack dab in the middle of hell? Magic, I tell ya!
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616021 - 09/03/05 10:50 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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furthermore, if Noviseer really did receive this from
a friend why would it have "been posted before"?
Does he have other friends with this shared acquaintance
that post on the boards?
Internet hoaxes rule!
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616053 - 09/03/05 11:10 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok well the point is that isnt far off from the truth at all.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616129 - 09/03/05 11:39 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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So afoaf, do you beleive it's like Disney land down there right now?
I'm guessing you don't have access to a television.
On thursday, the live news was reporting that stuff as it was happening and then cut off to mississipi and press conferences. Even here guys listening to the police scanner heard the first hand reports of relief workers being shot at.
The Red Cross before the storm said that one that size heading towards such an area would be expected to kill 40-50 thousand.
I have to know if you have been watching the coverage or not. You sound like you are posting from Saturn.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Noviseer]
#4616186 - 09/03/05 11:55 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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If a friend sent it to you, it's spam, and totally fake.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#4616192 - 09/03/05 11:56 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're missing the point. afoaf understands the situation in New Orleans.
The email in the original post is just fake...that's all. Even if it is a perfect impersonation of what a doctor in NO would actually write...it still rings of fakness.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#4616227 - 09/03/05 12:07 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's cool that you at least acknowledge it could be realistic of an actual letter! Thank you.
I get concerned when I see people acting like katrina was faked, as if Hollywood pre filmed everything we are seeing and hearing on the live news and that they are all paid actors. People aren't going to want to do what they can to help if they don't think its really happening.
I was in a devasting hurricane in '95 and what pissed me off the most was how down played the actual damage and loss of life was. People quickly blew it off when that isalnd despareley needed assistance.
We are so use to watch hollywood disaster films, I think people have become desensitized and it's hard for people to take it in how real this stuff is or feel for it as if it is real  .
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#4616298 - 09/03/05 12:22 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your reading comprehension and grasp on reality is
waning, buddy.
do you really think 50,000 people are going to die?
you are absolutely beyond reason if that's the case.
I understand there was a natural disaster.
I understand that many unfortunate people have
been left stranded in a flooded area for days without
relief.
I have seen the reports of looting, violence and
the like.
Do I think it's disneyland? No, don't be fucking ridiculous.
Do I think the entire area is swept with lawless gangs
killing and raping everything in site, shooting down
helicopters and blowing shit up? No.
And, back to THE ORIGINAL POINT OF THE POST:
THIS IS NOT A REAL EMAIL.
If it is, Noviseer can send me the original with the
headers intact and I will verify.
Until then, this is just another stupid opportunist trying
to stir up emotions and drama around something that's
plenty dramatic on it's own.
Suckers, the lot of you.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616337 - 09/03/05 12:29 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: MagicalMystery]
#4616345 - 09/03/05 12:31 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
MagicalMystery said:
Can we get a link to this please? It sounds REALLY far-fetched that a doctor saw this, but noone's got it on the news yet. a 7 year old girl was raped, but NO other news agency talks about it. Guardsmen having their weapons stolen, but noone else mentions is. i'm not even saying that it's not possible, I just hven't heard it ANYWHERE else.
Hahhahaha Yea because mainstream media always reports the bare facts.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#4616362 - 09/03/05 12:35 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mainstream news loves to promote news that promotes fear.
If that was occurring, every news station would report it in order to boost ratings, compete with other stations who are all airing the same story, and to promote fear which puts the consumer into a frenzy state.
If anything, mainstream news would be exaggerating violence, not suppressing it.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616418 - 09/03/05 12:47 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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afoaf said:
Your reading comprehension and grasp on reality is
waning, buddy.
do you really think 50,000 people are going to die?
No way to tell for sure. I dont think there are going to be 50k deaths. Probably something like 10k.
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Do I think the entire area is swept with lawless gangs
killing and raping everything in site, shooting down
helicopters and blowing shit up? No.
Was this posted before or after news footage of Saks 5th avenue ablaze?
Right now, i am talking to many friends via text message who have just now gotten out of areas like New Orleans, Biloxi, and Mobile. Looting is happening all over, but in New Orleans, there are gangs of people roaming around, committing armed robbery of other victims and in one case, a relief truck was hijacked. People are shooting at helicopters, national guards, police and each other.
Right now, there are absolutly no consequences for anything, legally. It is pure anarchy down there.
Also, there have been a few news agencies that have reported about the amount of rapes.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#4616420 - 09/03/05 12:49 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spud's point is right on.
If there was even a hint of this happening, it
would be reported.
Shit like that boosts ratings, dude.
And I find it comical that people will buy any
turd floating down the email river as outright
fact without any citation, source or proof but
the news must be AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS.
are you people fucking kidding me?!
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616430 - 09/03/05 12:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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but it is 
wtf dont you guys watch the news.
except fot the 50,000 death toll everything in that letter has happend
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616445 - 09/03/05 12:57 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doesn't anyone remember all that bullshit about mars being the size of the mood? I tried to tell people there's no way it could be right, and they'd tell it was because it said so in the email.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: buckwheat]
#4616464 - 09/03/05 01:04 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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The news has not reported that national guardsmen have
been stripped of their rifles.
Further, I've seen no confirmed reports of snipers shooting
at medics at the superdome or that medics at the superdome
where evacuated at any time.
This is a cobbled together collection of likely events...dead
bodies, the infirm dying in the heat...as well as a collection
of trumped up untruths.
Be reasonable and discerning people.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: buckwheat]
#4616475 - 09/03/05 01:10 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
mindcandy said:
but it is
wtf dont you guys watch the news.
except fot the 50,000 death toll everything in that letter has happend
Mind candy, I think they are not watching the news. Just now they had a doctor on who got out who said 8-10 people a day were dying in one of the hospitals alone. It will be a long time before the final body count comes out.
They were showing guys going through parts of Ridel which is NE of NO. The flood waters finally receded there and their job is to go through and mark off which buildings are safe and not safe to go in and of those safe, how many dead bodies need to be picked up from them. The were showing them spray painting the numbers. One home had 5 alone.
They just must not be watching the live news that much if at all. It doesn't matter. People who care are doing what they can, staying informed, raising awarness and donating time or personal resources. That's life.
Consider this mind candy as I am confused too by some of these response's. Maybe those who seem cold and distant, actually are distanced from the live reports coming out on the news and OR maybe they have deeply feeling hearts and just can't handle the reality of it and need to start whacking away at what they can't deal with as a means of coping trying to make sense of this. I dunno. :shrugs:
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#4616494 - 09/03/05 01:18 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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So how much have you donated towards relief aid so far?
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#4616537 - 09/03/05 01:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've had scanners and MSNBC on for 48 hours.
I'll be happy to wager that the death toll does
not exceed 5,000, let alone 50,000.
Want to put $100 on it?
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616551 - 09/03/05 01:39 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
afoaf said:
The news has not reported that national guardsmen have
been stripped of their rifles.
Further, I've seen no confirmed reports of snipers shooting
at medics at the superdome or that medics at the superdome
where evacuated at any time.
This is a cobbled together collection of likely events...dead
bodies, the infirm dying in the heat...as well as a collection
of trumped up untruths.
Be reasonable and discerning people.
ofcourse those exact situations might not be reported or happend
maybe it wasnt a sniper on a roof with a rifle/ but a guy with a gun at the end of the street, same thing. Yesterday in the convention center Geraldo Rivera was talking to this cop and he basically mentioned everything in that letter more or less
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: buckwheat]
#4616555 - 09/03/05 01:41 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good thing people are always 100% accurate in times of crisis and never exaggerate.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: spud]
#4616557 - 09/03/05 01:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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This whole event is very odd. The news isnt acting the same, as well as the measures, precautions and post-disaster guidelines that arent being followed.
There is nothing outrageously worse about this hurricane than hurricanes like andrew, georges, and fredrick. The biggest fuck up has been the response , and i mean the lack of it, by the national guard and other authorative agencies which deal with post-disaster situations.
The news isnt acting the way it should for some reason, because I agree with you they would be all over some of this stuff. Even Yahoo news is playing it down. but if you do a news search for "police shot in head in New Orleans", im sure you will find a nice article I read. The letter probably was fake, but what is more ridiculous? believing a fake letter? or disbeleiving the possible, because someone wrote a fake letter?
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: buckwheat]
#4616558 - 09/03/05 01:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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so once again, I will reiterate:
The point was, the letter was a fake and most
of the content is false.
You can't simultaneously argue that the letter
is wholly correct and then say that maybe they
didn't happen EXACTLY like that.
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT
Do you people have enough of a memory to
realize what we were talking about 5 posts
back or not?
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616572 - 09/03/05 01:49 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahaha
Welcome to the Pub, please leave your logic at the door.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616578 - 09/03/05 01:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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nice throwback to nothing i ever even said.
All was i was saying was that stuff like that is happening
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4616583 - 09/03/05 01:56 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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christ man.
You're downplaying it more than the news is.
Maybe the letter was fake, that doesn't mean the content of it is too.
Yeah, mainstream news loves to promote fear. But they also love to distort the facts.
Of course people are going to fucking exaggerate.
But if you were in a disaster and situation like that you would probably think it's the end of the world too.
Based on all first-hand accounts I have heard, it is the law of the jungle down there right now. You can downplay that and play it off all you want, but are you there?
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4616588 - 09/03/05 01:58 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
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(I've got satellite internet)
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: MagicalMystery]
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Can we get a link to this please? It sounds REALLY far-fetched that a doctor saw this, but noone's got it on the news yet. a 7 year old girl was raped, but NO other news agency talks about it.
sorry to say but at least some of that is true
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050903/ts_nm/mayhem_dc_1
Murder and mayhem in New Orleans' miserable shelter
By Mark Egan Fri Sep 2,11:44 PM ET
NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - With the rotors of President George W. Bush's helicopter sounding overhead, New Orleans' poor and downtrodden recounted tales of murder, rape, death threats and near starvation since Hurricane Katrina wrecked this city.
Ending days of abandonment since the hurricane struck on Monday, the U.S. National Guard handed out military rations and a bottle of water to thousands of evacuees -- the first proper meal most had eaten in days.
But as the masses lined up outside, herded by Army troops toting machine guns, inside the convention center where these people slept since Monday was the stench of death and decay.
Leroy Fouchea, 42, waited in the sweltering heat for an hour to get his ration -- his first proper food since Monday -- and immediately handed it over to a sickly friend.
He then offered to show reporters the dead bodies of a man in a wheelchair, a young man who he said he dragged inside just hours earlier, and the limp forms of two infants, one just four months old, the other six months old.
"They died right here, in America, waiting for food," Fouchea said as he walked toward Hall D, where the bodies were put to get them out of the searing heat.
He said people were let die and left without food simply because they were poor and that the evacuation effort earlier concentrated on the French Quarter of the city. "Because that's where the money is," he spat.
A National Guardsman refused entry.
"It doesn't need to be seen, it's a make-shift morgue in there," he told a Reuters photographer. "We're not letting anyone in there anymore. If you want to take pictures of dead bodies, go to Iraq."
As rations were finally doled out here on the day President Bush visited the devastated city, an elderly white woman and her husband collapsed from the heat.
"I had to walk two blocks to get here and I have arthritis and three ruptured discs in my back," said Selma Valenti, 80, as her husband lay beside her, being revived by a policeman in riot gear. The two had eaten nothing since Wednesday.
Valenti and her husband, two of very few white people in the almost exclusively black refugee camp, said she and other whites were threatened with murder on Thursday.
"They hated us. Four young black men told us the buses were going to come last night and pick up the elderly so they were going to kill us," she said, sobbing. "They were plotting to murder us and then they sent the buses away because we would all be killed if the buses came -- that's what the people in charge told us this morning."
Other survivors recounted horrific cases of sexual assault and murder.
Sitting with her daughter and other relatives, Trolkyn Joseph, 37, said men had wandered the cavernous convention center in recent nights raping and murdering children.
She said she found a dead 14-year old girl at 5 a.m. on Friday morning, four hours after the young girl went missing from her parents inside the convention center.
"She was raped for four hours until she was dead," Joseph said through tears. "Another child, a seven-year old boy was found raped and murdered in the kitchen freezer last night."
Several others interviewed by Reuters told similar stories of the abuse and murder of children, but they could not be independently verified.
Many complained bitterly about why they received so little for so many days, and they had harsh words for Bush.
"I really don't know what to say about President Bush," said Richard Dunbar, 60, a Vietnam veteran. "He showed no lack of haste when he wanted to go to Iraq, but for his own people right here in Louisiana, we get only lip service."
One young man said he was not looking forward to another night in the convention center and wondered when conditions would improve. "It's been like a jail in there," he said. "We've got murderers, rapists, killers, thieves. We've got it all."
Edited by TheDude (09/03/05 02:15 PM)
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: TheDude]
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That report is fake. Reuters is fake. You people will believe anything 
Bush is god and nothing bad is happening in New Orleans.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: spud]
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Mainstream news loves to promote news that promotes fear.
If that was occurring, every news station would report it in order to boost ratings, compete with other stations who are all airing the same story, and to promote fear which puts the consumer into a frenzy state.
If anything, mainstream news would be exaggerating violence, not suppressing it.
Not totally true. They showed a copter shot of a family in LO in their above ground pool enjoying themselves as their home is surrounded by three feet of flood water and they can't leave. They are making the best of it and the news showed that side. The news is showing what is positive, unfortunately, the positive goes along with who is helping the fucked up and it is negative.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#4616635 - 09/03/05 02:24 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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What was it you were saying last night about distance playing a role in how emotionally or unemotionally people would react to the situation.. that some would probably rather just cover up their eyes. most of the people who said that letter is total bs in this thread are from the same state. an interesting synchronicity I couldn't help but notice.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4616672 - 09/03/05 02:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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It gets even worse
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050903/ts_nm/weather_katrina_helpless_dc
NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - People left homeless by Hurricane Katrina told horrific stories of rape, murder and trigger happy guards in two New Orleans centers that were set up as shelters but became places of violence and terror.
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Police and National Guard troops on Saturday closed down the two centers -- the Superdome arena and the city's convention center -- but them penned them in outside in sweltering heat to keep them from trying to walk out of the city.
Military helicopters and buses staged a massive evacuation to take away thousands of people who waited in orderly lines in stifling heat outside the flooded convention center.
The refugees, who were waiting to be taken to sports stadiums and other huge shelters across Texas and northern Louisiana, described how the convention center and the Superdome became lawless hellholes beset by rape and murder.
Several residents of the impromptu shantytown recounted two horrific incidents where those charged with keeping people safe had killed them instead.
In one, a young man was run down and then shot by a New Orleans police officer, in another a man seeking help was gunned down by a National Guard soldier, witnesses said.
Police here refused to discuss or confirm either incident. National Guard spokesman Lt. Col Pete Schneider said "I have not heard any information of a weapon being discharged."
"They killed a man here last night," Steve Banka, 28, told Reuters. "A young lady was being raped and stabbed. And the sounds of her screaming got to this man and so he ran out into the street to get help from troops, to try to flag down a passing truck of them, and he jumped up on the truck's windshield and they shot him dead."
Wade Batiste, 48, recounted another tale of horror.
"Last night at 8 p.m. they shot a kid of just 16. He was just crossing the street. They ran him over, the New Orleans police did, and then they got out of the car and shot him in the head," Batiste said.
The young man's body lay in the street by the Convention Center's entrance on Saturday morning, covered in a black blanket, a stream of congealed blood staining the street around him. Nearby his family sat in shock.
A member of that family, Africa Brumfield, 32, confirmed the incident but declined to be quoted about it, saying her family did not wish to discuss it. But she spoke of general conditions here.
"There is rapes going on here. Women cannot go to the bathroom without men. They are raping them and slitting their throats. They keep telling us the buses are coming but they never leave," she said through tears.
People here said there were now 22 bodies of adults and children stored inside the building, but troops guarding the building refused to confirm that and threatened to beat reporters seeking access to the makeshift morgue.
People trying to walk out are forced back at gunpoint - something troops said was for their own safety. "It's sad, but how far do you think they would get," one soldier said.
"They have us living here like animals," said Wvonnette Grace-Jordan, here with five children, the youngest only six weeks old. "We have only had two meals, we have no medicine and now there are thousands of people defecating in the streets. This is wrong. This is the United States of America."
One National Guard soldier who asked not to be named for fear of punishment from his commanding officer said of the lack of medical attention at the center, "They (the Bush administration) care more about Iraq and Afghanistan than here."
The Louisiana National Guard soldier said, "We are doing the best we can with the resources we have, but almost all of our guys are in Iraq."
Across town at the Superdome, where as many as 38,000 refugees camped out until Wednesday night when evacuation buses first came, the 4,000 still there were corralled outside, hoping to get on four waiting buses with seats for only 200.
The scene at the sports stadium was one of abject filth. Crammed into a small area after the building was shut to them last night, those remaining sat amid heaps of garbage, piled in places waist high. The stench of human waste pervaded the interior of the now vacant stadium.
One police officer told Reuters there were 100 people in a makeshift morgue at the Superdome, mostly people who died of heat exhaustion, and that six babies had been born there since last Saturday, when people arrived to take shelter.
At the arena, too, there was much talk of bedlam after dark.
"We found a young girl raped and killed in the bathroom," one National Guard soldier told Reuters. "Then the crowd got the man and they beat him to death."
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: TheDude]
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The people being interviewed there live on the news were saying the same thing.
One reporter said thrusday night that they were considering letting the people at the Convention Center march out through the water.
"Letting" them? Am I to understand they were not free to walk out? Wtf? Then the following morning on the live news people were screaming to the news cameras "Let us out" NOT "get us out".
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4616715 - 09/03/05 02:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Geraldo just reported similar stories.
People getting capped for molesting children and what not.
I don't know why people are having such a hard time reading.
I know what's going on down there, the original point and
the one I'm still trying to get across to those people that
think that THIS LETTER IS A REAL LETTER WRITTEN BY A
REAL DOCTOR ARE LUDICROUS. IT IS PROBABLY A WHOLESALE
FAKE COOKED UP BY SOME LOON TRYING TO GET IN ON
THE FRENZY.
Ps. I'm posting live from the superdome.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
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Maybe so.. but that doesn't negate the fact that some fucked up shit is going on.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
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Heraldo is so fucking annoying. I wish someone would take a shot at his dumb ass.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4616736 - 09/03/05 03:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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If their were a source, I'd believe "Dr AK" a little bit more.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4616824 - 09/03/05 03:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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nobody said fucked up shit wasn't going on.
read the damn thread, hippie.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4616911 - 09/03/05 04:25 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
Maybe so.. but that doesn't negate the fact that some fucked up shit is going on.
I agree. However, I'm not out to use bullshit to prove my point. If the letter is real, then it's real. I don't think that the letter is real but I'm not negating the evil things that are happening down there.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4617109 - 09/03/05 06:08 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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afoaf said:
furthermore, if Noviseer really did receive this from
a friend why would it have "been posted before"?
Does he have other friends with this shared acquaintance
that post on the boards?
Internet hoaxes rule!
I copied the whole text from an email I recieved. I though the * * * division I put between my text and the letter was sufficient to clear that up. I'm not claiming to know the doc, or be a friend of a friend or anything. I don't know any better than anyone if its true or not.
Whether or not this letter exaggerates.... its clear that there are multiple thousands dead and multiple thousands suffering in a horrible, scary, disgusting environment. I just hope people will read this and keep those poor bastards in mind, hoax or no hoax.
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: afoaf]
#4617147 - 09/03/05 06:28 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco echoed fears that the death toll would reach into the thousands. And Craig Vanderwagen, rear admiral of the U.S. Public Health Service, said one morgue alone, at a St. Gabriel prison, expected 1,000 to 2,000 bodies.
Touring a triage center at New Orleans' airport, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., a physician, said ?a lot more than eight to 10 people are dying a day.?
Most were those too sick or weak to survive. But not all.
Charles Womack, a 30-year-old roofer, said he saw one man beaten to death and another commit suicide at the Louisiana Superdome. Womack was beaten with a pipe and being treated at the airport triage center.
?One guy jumped off a balcony. I saw him do it. He was talking to a lady about it. He said it reminded him of the war, and he couldn?t leave,? he said.
The stadium as well as the center were choked with sewage and garbage.
Three babies died at the convention center from heat exhaustion, said Mark Kyle, a medical relief provider.
People at the center said that at least 22 bodies were stored inside the building, but troops guarding the building refused to confirm that and threatened to beat reporters seeking access to the center's makeshift morgue. By midafternoon, paramedics were gathering up the dead.
Meanwhile, at the Superdome, one police officer said that 100 corpses were in yet another makeshift morgue, mostly people who died of heat exhaustion.
The officer said six babies had been born there since last Saturday, when people started taking shelter from the storm.
A National Guardsman told a reporter that ?we found a young girl raped and killed in the bathroom? at the Superdome. ?Then the crowd got the man and they beat him to death.?
Airport director Roy Williams said about 30 people had died, some of them elderly and ill. The bodies were being kept in refrigerated trucks as a temporary morgue.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#4617163 - 09/03/05 06:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Another "supposed" letter from NO:
http://asmallvictory.net/archives/009722.html
"Thanks to all of you who have sent your notes of concern and your prayers. I am writing this note on Tuesday at 2 p.m.. I wanted to update all of you as to the situation here. I don't know how much information you are getting but I am certain it is more than we are getting. Be advised that almost everything I am telling you is from direct observation or rumor from reasonable sources. They are allowing limited internet access, so I hope to send this dispatch today.
Personally, my family and I are fine. My family is safe in Jackson, Miss., and I am now a temporary resident of the Ritz Carleton Hotel in New Orleans. I figured if it was my time to go, I wanted to go in a place with a good wine list. In addition, this hotel is in a very old building on Canal Street that could and did sustain little damage. Many of the other hotels sustained significant loss of windows, and we expect that many of the guests may be evacuated here.
Things were obviously bad yesterday, but they are much worse today. Overnight the water arrived. Now Canal Street (true to its origins) is indeed a canal. The first floor of all downtown buildings is underwater. I have heard that Charity Hospital and Tulane are limited in their ability to care for patients because of water. Ochsner is the only hospital that remains fully functional. However, I spoke with them today and they too are on generator and losing food and water fast.
The city now has no clean water, no sewerage system, no electricity, and no real communications. Bodies are still being recovered floating in the floods. We are worried about a cholera epidemic. Even the police are without effective communications. We have a group of armed police here with us at the hotel that is admirably trying to exert some local law enforcement. This is tough because looting is now rampant. Most of it is not malicious looting. These are poor and desperate people with no housing and no medical care and no food or water trying to take care of themselves and their families.
Unfortunately, the people are armed and dangerous. We hear gunshots frequently. Most of Canal street is occupied by armed looters who have a low threshold for discharging their weapons. We hear gunshots frequently. The looters are using makeshift boats made of pieces of styrofoam to access. We are still waiting for a significant national guard presence.
The health care situation here has dramatically worsened overnight. Many people in the hotel are elderly and small children. Many other guests have unusual diseases. ... There are (Infectious Disease) physicians in at this hotel attending an HIV confection. We have commandered the world famous French Quarter Bar to turn
into an makeshift clinic. There is a team of about seven doctors and PAs and pharmacists. We anticipate that this will be the major medical facility in the central business district and French Quarter.
Our biggest adventure today was raiding the Walgreens on Canal under police escort. The pharmacy was dark and full of water. We basically scooped the entire drug sets into garbage bags and removed them. All under police excort. The looters had to be held back at gunpoint. After a dose of prophylactic Cipro I hope to be fine.
In all we are faring well. We have set up a hospital in the the French Qarter bar in the hotel, and will start admitting patients today. Many will be from the hotel, but many will not. We are anticipating dealing with multiple medical problems, medications and and acute injuries. Infection and perhaps even cholera are anticipated major problems. Food and water shortages are imminent.
The biggest question to all of us is where is the National Guard. We hear jet fignters and helicopters, but no real armed presence, and hence the rampant looting. There is no Red Cross and no Salvation Army.
In a sort of clich? way, this is an edifying experience. One is rapidly focused away from the transient and material to the bare necessities of life. It has been challenging to me to learn how to be a primary care phyisican. We are under martial law so return to our homes is impossible. I don't know how long it will be and this is my greatest fear. Despite it all, this is a soul-edifying experience. The greatest pain is to think about the loss. And how long the rebuid will take. And the horror of so many dead people .
PLEASE SEND THIS DISPATCH TO ALL YOU THING MAY BE INTERSTED IN A DISPATCH from the front. I will send more according to your interest. Hopefully their collective prayers will be answered. By the way, suture packs, sterile gloves and stethoscopes will be needed as the Ritz turns into a MASH."
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#4617333 - 09/03/05 07:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's fucked up. How long has it been.. and there's hardly any national guard presence.. and where the fuck is the red cross?
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
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the red cross sucks. It is a useless organization. DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO THEM...EVER!
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: TheDude]
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All our wrong doings will go punished in this life or the next... these poor people looting the stores wonder why they are poor... try to keep your karma clean maybe you will find out!
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
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It's really sickening. I guess they FINALLY got everybody out of the superdome tonight.  However they still havent gotten the looters under control. There are still people stuck in attics and on roofs of buildings and houses.
From the looks of it, IMO the looters are going out and bringing food and supplies back to their families who are stuck living in attics, rooftops, or somebody elses attic or roof.
That is a very good question, where the fuck is the red cross and salvation army????
Updates:
Congress likely to Probe Guard Response
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_national_guard
Bush admits efforts being made are 'not enough' (article from yesterday)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/02/bush.katrina.ap/index.html
Quote from the article:
"He stayed far from the worst-hit areas of the city and places that have been gripped by crime. Bush met with state and local officials, including New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin who a day earlier had lashed out at federal officials: "They don't have a clue what's going on down here."
"The president is starting to grasp the magnitude of the situation," said Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-Louisiana.
Sen. Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, said, "The president obviously was just stunned" by what he saw."
He's just starting to grasp how devastating the situation really is??? What the fuck... anybody with half a brain could have seen this when the storm was off the gulf coast 2 days from touching down. 
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#4617569 - 09/03/05 08:59 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: faslimy]
#4617575 - 09/03/05 09:01 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gonna save the motherfuckin' day yeah, America, FUCK YEAH
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Boom]
#4617593 - 09/03/05 09:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I blame the media
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Re: A doctor's first hand account of New Orleans conditions [Re: Shroomism]
#4617657 - 09/03/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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George Bush doesn't hate black people, people do... the media will make them believe whatever they know the people want to, with a twist of selected video footage and biased reports.
Do you think I'm going to hell because I just now prayed for the victims? 6 day and a prayer, is that all, your thoughts! That's all I did I'm starting to feel bad and wonder what I can do to help. I should have gone down there after Katrina hit with my boat and my shotguns and means to help as a vigilante.
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these long agonizing months without you...have been long and agonizing..
"War Doesn't Decide Who's Right... It Only Decides Who's Left."
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