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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
#4614303 - 09/02/05 09:47 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd have to say shrooms are much less of a legal risk overall. While marijuna is one of the top priorities in our silly war on drugs, mushrooms barely ring a bell with most people, because they just don't receive as much attention from the feds. You would really have to cause some commotion to get busted growing shrooms. Growing herb seems like a high risk hobby 24/7.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: Holydiver]
#4614399 - 09/02/05 10:08 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can't tell you about the legal ramifications, check norml.org for your states stance on pot growing. But I have personally grown both and I must say that pot is much more risky to grow than mushrooms.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
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Legally, in some states you'd be more fucked if you got caught with mushrooms, because marijuana is decriminalized. In California, I may be wrong but I think the penalty for cultivation is 16 months, while I would bet mushrooms are more.
However, if you mean getting caught, which you don't since you said legally, marijuana's more risky, as it can take quite a bit of electricity (though not as significant for small personal grows) and also has a very distinct smell.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
#4617510 - 09/03/05 08:42 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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In Texas growing shrooms can get you 5 to 90 years. Thats what I'm looking at right now.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
#4618927 - 09/04/05 09:25 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Either one, it's still production of a schedule 1 substance, and will fall under the same sentencing guidelines by weight. In most states, that is, i can't say for yours.
Marijuana growing is much more high profile in terms of markers tho. (scent, heat, energy use, infrastructure, etc)
But legally they're the same (check state laws for marijuana....possession might be a lesser offense in some states, but production is still a felony)
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
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Dude, the possible sentences are all based around the weight seized, and the calculated weight....in the case of growing plants, they count the soil. In the case of mushrooms, they'd probably count the weight of the substrate (if caught during the grow phase)
THEY'RE BOTH SCHEDULE ONE in nearly ALL states. Manufacture/production/cultivation is a FELONY regardless of the amount. They won't be lenient. They're both the same thing. Same risk.
If you were growing both at the same time, you'd face two manufacturing charges.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
#4623876 - 09/05/05 07:34 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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well in illinois
weed is less of a problem growing wise, where shrooms will get you ass in jail, at elast for a few days before you get 2 years of parole....
but youre less likely to get busted growing shrooms, assuming you dont tell anyone, and oh yeah, dont tell anyone... oh and what was that other rule... oh yeah dont tell anyone.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: ZippoZ]
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If you grow marijuana indoors conceal the light and make a carbon filter to get rid of the smell.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: Ravus]
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Ravus said: Legally, in some states you'd be more fucked if you got caught with mushrooms, because marijuana is decriminalized. In California, I may be wrong but I think the penalty for cultivation is 16 months, while I would bet mushrooms are more.
However, if you mean getting caught, which you don't since you said legally, marijuana's more risky, as it can take quite a bit of electricity (though not as significant for small personal grows) and also has a very distinct smell.
decriminalization has absolutely nothing to do with cultivation... of either...
state penalties vary for cultivation but have nothing to do with whether pot is decriminalized or not.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
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*sigh* doesnt it seem like such bullshit? here i am, a completely upstanding member of society, with a job and going to school, in a semi wealthy neighborhood being a friendly and clean neighbor, doing my duties, registering my car and parking in designated spaces and obeying traffic laws yet i could get 5 to 90 for.....growing mushrooms?
fuckin a something is wrong with that
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: divinityinfinity]
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amen 
if you count the number of drug users being persecuted in this country we aren't really any different than the Jews in Nazi Germany.... they just don't kill us. (sometimes they do)
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: leery11]
#4762113 - 10/06/05 01:19 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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well this is what we get when we live in america. it is ran by a bunch of christian right wing do gooders. wait, ill stop there and save the political rants as im sure they have all been heard before . but by the way, does anyone else on these boards hate america as much as i do?
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: spooky]
#4764752 - 10/06/05 04:00 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i would defiently have to go with weed on this subject.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
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Well instead of running from the US we could organize like the pilgrims did originally in England, and leave from religious prosecution. But if you are like I, you do not seek to leave this country. The only true way to fight this war would be to organize, which many of us have done via means of lobbying groups but of course more could be done.
Our country was founded on, "give me liberty or give me death." I feel the same way about my life. Honestly give me liberty or you might as well just kill me. Within the reason of rationality of following even the 10 commandments dictated by god, doing drugs is not seen as wrong.
You know what drug users remind me off? Homosexual people and women. Just as women where treated like crap, beaten and even burned in the historic witch trials they now have some freedom. The gays have the saddest story of all, many for thousands of years killed themselves as the only escape from reality. Honestly I don't feel any different then them. I can't live the way I feel is right, even though I don't hurt anyone else. It is like being a gay man not being able to be with other men. I have a fundamental right as a human being to do what I want with my life and NOBODY should have power against my will. If I want to paint my face blue that should be ok. If I want to smoke marijuana in my home that should be ok. If I want to smoke crack in my home that should be ok. So if I steal a car to pay for my crack ok that is illegal but look a separation occurs here ok. What is wrong with doing drugs in your own home? What is wrong with being a responsible adult?
If I must submit my personal values that I feel are right then what life do I have to live? Why do I have to hide my true feelings? I feel like Aristotle who spoke his views and was murdered for his views of the outside. The very words this country where founded on are violated. The US is a heavily taxed, regulated nightmare compared to what it was originally intended. The founding fathers would puke and start a new country if they saw the state of the USA now. How is this liberty when such a fundamental and important part of peoples lives are violated. Are not religious beliefs protected by the state and federal government? Well my religion is doing drugs. I find them necessary for my life. I can't live without them. I seek drugs for spiritual guidance, I see drugs to pacific my soul. So how is the drug war able to be fought on these grounds? Of course everything in this country is backwards, from the Health Care system with heavy bureaucratic costs placing the burden on the patient who must incur unnecessary costs.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: Fluxburn]
#5497519 - 04/09/06 06:57 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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in florida you can actually posses a small amount (it is unspecified what is a small amount) of FRESH active mushrooms legally. But the mary jane is still illegal..
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: trauma47645]
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trauma47645 said: in florida you can actually posses a small amount (it is unspecified what is a small amount) of FRESH active mushrooms legally. But the mary jane is still illegal..
I thought that was only if you were mushroom hunting, and had a damn good excuse as to why you had the psychoactives instead of edibles?
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: wiggles]
#5597459 - 05/06/06 10:49 AM (18 years, 17 days ago) |
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When calculating the level of risk you have to look at the punishment you can expect, as well as the likelihood that your grow will be discovered. In my state growing 5 or less mj plants is a misdemeanor. More then 5 plants or any amount of myc or mushrooms is a felony. You will have to check your state laws to be sure of what you can expect.
Remember. No matter what precautions you take, shit happens. A number of grow opps have been found because of fires. Domestic investigations. nosy landlords or relatives. Wrong address. I know of one person that got caught growing weed when cops showed up with a warrant for an exroomate. That roommate had moved out over a year before. He tried to get off with illegal search since the guy moved out. His roommates name was still on the lease so the cops were able to use that warrant, and make the charges stick.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: Randolph_Carter]
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i didn't think growing pot would be the same charge as meth and heroin, my uncle got 25 years for meth there was no drugs found he was narced on and they had a picture of him outside a lab where only glass ware and solvents where found, so weight don't matter all the time, if he pled guilty he would be out in under 5 years though. what would be the best way to find out for sure what the jail time would be, call the court or lawyer in your area?
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
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the penalties for getting busted are going to matter on a lot of factors other than which one of these two you're growing. i don't think you can say that one is worse than the other if you get nailed.
growing mushrooms might be looked upon less favorably than pot in some places, but i doubt it's a big difference. any difference is greatly outweighed by the much greater bust risk that pot growing presents. cannabis plants are larger, have a longer growing cycle, require large quantities of light, have a distinct odor and a distinct appearance.
the smallest pot grow i can imagine would need something at least the size of a small closet and would need lights and fans. forget keeping it a secret from anyone who enters whatever room the closet happens to be in. that's a small grow. a decent sized one would require an entire room or outdoor garden, and require a large amount of electricity and heat and odor dissipation.
the smallest mushroom grow (a petri dish would suffice, but let's be reasonable) is maybe the size of a gallon milk jug. a moderate grow would be the size of something like a foot locker. it requires only periodic light and air movement, doesn't have a strong smell, and can be securely locked away in a concealed area without running electrical wires or air exhausts from it.
mushroom growing is MUCH more low key.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: wilshire]
#5681211 - 05/27/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Exceptional points! The risk with mushrooms is higher, but the odds of getting caught at all are greatly minimized. A fair trade under the current legal circumstances.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Think about it like this, is your average, local joe going to know what your growing if they do see/find it? Is said joe going to report you if they think your some mycology nerd brushing up? IF they see a pot plant, however, I gaurantee the average joe will know what one of those is. Besides, you can be much more secretive with a cooler full of shrooms, atleast thats the way it seems.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: justamonkey]
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Not to mention that you could deny the actual species of the shrooms and they would have to pay out the butt to hire a real mycologist to tell them for sure, or the case would have to go out the window. So for a small amount, I'm pretty sure you'd get a slap on the wrist. Distribution seems to be what they take most seriously. Make sure your atleast 500ft from a school and arent selling thejm to anyone, then you should be alright with the shrooms.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: justamonkey]
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Growing and dealing don't mix.
Neither does growing and loud parties.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Aside from smell, you have nothing to worry about unless you tell anybody.
If you keep it on the down low, correctly conceal the smell, your "legal risk" goes down dramatically since you never run the risk of transporting or dealing with dealers.
The flip side is legal punishment for cultivation far exceeds punishment for simple possession. Just don't be a dumbass.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: phoenix012]
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Small scale cultivation in New Mexico is only punishable under possession charges.
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Re: Is it less of a legal risk to grow shrooms or marijuana? [Re: whosayswhat]
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States can pass any laws they want. I lived in Idaho....they did not like me selling spores..... So, they made them illegal..also with the same penalty as herion possesion.
Do they think you are cultivating? There is nothing in spores you can get high on. So....if you have possesion of nitric or sulfuric acid, are you thought of as trying to make nitroglycerin?
Many household chemicals can be used to make many compounds.
Is mere possesion conspicacy? In Idaho, look at what you face for simply having in your house or possesion something that has nothing to show what your intent is.
Does ammonium nitrate..a fertiliser mean you are making a bomb?
All our rights are being taken away...
I could talk about many things... Soon, I may not be allowed to....
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