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OfflineTodcasil
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usefullness?
    #4612135 - 09/02/05 01:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

do you think its useless to be a good person?

im curious to see who thinks this, and why. im forming an opinion. in fact, i know where my heart lies without even debating the issue. ah well.

any takers?


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Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
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Re: usefullness? [Re: Todcasil]
    #4612141 - 09/02/05 01:41 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

But is there a universal sense of "goodness"?


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Re: usefullness? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4612146 - 09/02/05 01:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i believe that in human nature there is nothing that says right and wrong must be determined.  so no!

:todcasil:


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Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
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Re: usefullness? [Re: Todcasil]
    #4612151 - 09/02/05 01:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Depends where the intention comes from. If you want to be a good person because you want something, ANYTHING, in return, then I think it is potentially good in a small way for everyone, but definitely bad in a big way for the individual.

Consequentialists will argue that the intention makes absolutely no difference, it's the result that matters...cause and effect. I disagree with this, but I haven't been able to articulate why just yet...if anyone agrees with me and can articulate better than myself, it would be cool.

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Re: usefullness? [Re: Todcasil]
    #4612172 - 09/02/05 01:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Just gotta follow the heart then. Do what is good to YOU. Of course, what is evil to you might be someone else's good to them.


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-Erik Davis


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Re: usefullness? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4612176 - 09/02/05 01:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Just gotta follow the heart then.  Do what is good to YOU.




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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: usefullness? [Re: dblaney]
    #4612365 - 09/02/05 02:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

karma


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