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Offlinecubeladd
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What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do?
    #4612027 - 09/02/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It seems like an interesting chemical from what I've read, but I'm still unsure as to what exactly its purpose is.

As I understand it, it kills spores but not fruit bodies, so you would add it to the bottom of your terranium once all the pinheads have formed where its purpose then on is to produce oxygen and water for the shrooms while killing bacteria in the setup. If this is the case it sounds incredibly useful. Though I guess I have probably mis-interpreted it, can someone tell me if this is correct?


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: cubeladd]
    #4612078 - 09/02/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

That is the case. It has other practical household uses - but in this case that is what it does.


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: ixitwistedixi]
    #4612139 - 09/02/05 01:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

So once Iam confident that all my fruit bodies have appeared I would remove the cakes and blend some 3% h202 into the water/perlite mixture and replace the cakes right? I haven't been able to find any teks on using both perlite/h202, just ones for h202/agar.

If anyone knows of any suitable UK available h202 products I can use I'd really appreciate it.


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: cubeladd]
    #4612198 - 09/02/05 01:51 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It will kill only spores not mycelium so you can use it with colonised cakes. It is also used in cloning, you can dip a segment of mushroom in it which will kill any airborne contams that have fallen on it.
It is not a miracle worker though, if the airborne contams have germinated they will live.
It also retards myc growth a bit. It can be added to misting water.
You can add some to your perlite water from the very start.
You get it in chemists and some supermarkets, it is for disinfecting wounds, and stronger stuff is for bleaching hair.


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: blackout]
    #4612219 - 09/02/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Its good at killing things, but not good at killing most living things, since they can easily break the peroxide down before it harms them. Thats why it works on spores, but not living stuff.


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: cubeladd]
    #4612305 - 09/02/05 02:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

another good or very good substence is IODINE!!!
one or two drops and it smells like a new lab...!


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: blackout]
    #4612311 - 09/02/05 02:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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It will kill only spores not mycelium so you can use it with colonized cakes. It is also used in cloning, you can dip a segment of mushroom in it which will kill any airborne contams that have fallen on it.
It is not a miracle worker though, if the airborne contams have germinated they will live.
It also retards myc growth a bit. It can be added to misting water.
You can add some to your perlite water from the very start.
You get it in chemists and some supermarkets, it is for disinfecting wounds, and stronger stuff is for bleaching hair.




Iam still confused here, if I were to dip the cap in h202 for cloning wouldn't that instantly kill the spores in the gills? Also you say it retards mycelium growth, I thought the mycelium only needed to grow during the incubation phase to colonize the substrate, not while fruiting. Finally if I can add the stuff to the perlite water at the start won't that kill off any chance of the fruit bodies growing?

Sorry to be so dumb, but Iam a newbie  :blush:


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    #6260012 - 11/08/06 01:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: sleepy]
    #6260925 - 11/08/06 11:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Peroxide is catastrophic to fungi at the cellular level. It has limited uses in mushroom cultivation and is greatly over used. I don't use it when cloning except as a last ditch effort when nothing else has worked anyway.

Peroxide is great for killing cobweb mold on casing layers.

Some growers use peroxide when cloning, but this is self defeating. It will kill bacteria on the culture, but in the process it injures the mycelium, making it take longer to recover and grow, thus hindering the cloning process. Iodine works much better at killing bacteria, and doesn't harm the mycelium.

Sleepy, the fruiting body of a mycelial network is not mold. Nor is mushroom mycelium mold. Molds are imperfect fungi that do not produce fruits to reproduce, nor do they often have more than one nuclei per cell. Mushroom mycelium begins life in the imperfect stage when a spore germinates, but becomes dikaryotic(multi nucleate) after mating with a compatible hyphae from another spore. After the mating, each cell has two or more nuclei, which is required for fruitbody formation.
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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6260940 - 11/08/06 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sleepy, you need to check the dates before replying to old threads. While this thread does have some benefit, bringing it back to life was unnecessary. Thanks.


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6260945 - 11/08/06 11:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sleepy, the fruiting body of a mycelial network is not mold. Nor is mushroom mycelium mold. Molds are imperfect fungi that do not produce fruits to reproduce, nor do they often have more than one nuclei per cell. Mushroom mycelium begins life in the imperfect stage when a spore germinates, but becomes dikaryotic(multi nucleate) after mating with a compatible hyphae from another spore. After the mating, each cell has two or more nuclei, which is required for fruitbody formation.




Well, duh... Doesn't everybody know this!?  :smile:

Seriously tho, this is the level of information that seperates those who know from those who think they do. Good stuff!

So, basically we should avoid peroxide except in cases of cobweb? I have 2 bottles and I have yet to use them, but everything seems to be moving along fine.


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6261207 - 11/08/06 12:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

looks like im not the only biology major! <3


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: sleepy]
    #6261704 - 11/08/06 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Like this?
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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6261736 - 11/08/06 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

RR very nice pics...that's very cool!


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Re: What does Hydrogen Peroxide actually do? [Re: Tahoe58]
    #6261927 - 11/08/06 04:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has proved to be informative and has cleared up alot about H202 for me. I use a solution of 95% water and 5% H202 (3%) in a spray bottle and have been misting my cake 2 times a day when I fan. should I use just regular filtered water with no H202 if it can hinder the myc from growing?


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