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Invisibletrick

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Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses'
    #4612022 - 09/02/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Watch the video. It's a radio interview. He's not taking any shit.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html

(CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin blasted the slow pace of federal and state relief efforts in an expletive-laced interview with local radio station WWL-AM.

The following is a transcript of WWL correspondent Garland Robinette's interview with Nagin on Thursday night. Robinette asked the mayor about his conversation with President Bush:

NAGIN: I told him we had an incredible crisis here and that his flying over in Air Force One does not do it justice. And that I have been all around this city, and I am very frustrated because we are not able to marshal resources and we're outmanned in just about every respect.

You know the reason why the looters got out of control? Because we had most of our resources saving people, thousands of people that were stuck in attics, man, old ladies. ... You pull off the doggone ventilator vent and you look down there and they're standing in there in water up to their freaking necks.

And they don't have a clue what's going on down here. They flew down here one time two days after the doggone event was over with TV cameras, AP reporters, all kind of goddamn -- excuse my French everybody in America, but I am pissed.

WWL: Did you say to the president of the United States, "I need the military in here"?

NAGIN: I said, "I need everything."

Now, I will tell you this -- and I give the president some credit on this -- he sent one John Wayne dude down here that can get some stuff done, and his name is [Lt.] Gen. [Russel] Honore.

And he came off the doggone chopper, and he started cussing and people started moving. And he's getting some stuff done.

They ought to give that guy -- if they don't want to give it to me, give him full authority to get the job done, and we can save some people.

WWL: What do you need right now to get control of this situation?

NAGIN: I need reinforcements, I need troops, man. I need 500 buses, man. We ain't talking about -- you know, one of the briefings we had, they were talking about getting public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out here.

I'm like, "You got to be kidding me. This is a national disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound bus line in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans."

That's -- they're thinking small, man. And this is a major, major, major deal. And I can't emphasize it enough, man. This is crazy.

I've got 15,000 to 20,000 people over at the convention center. It's bursting at the seams. The poor people in Plaquemines Parish. ... We don't have anything, and we're sharing with our brothers in Plaquemines Parish.

It's awful down here, man.

WWL: Do you believe that the president is seeing this, holding a news conference on it but can't do anything until [Louisiana Gov.] Kathleen Blanco requested him to do it? And do you know whether or not she has made that request?

NAGIN: I have no idea what they're doing. But I will tell you this: You know, God is looking down on all this, and if they are not doing everything in their power to save people, they are going to pay the price. Because every day that we delay, people are dying and they're dying by the hundreds, I'm willing to bet you.

We're getting reports and calls that are breaking my heart, from people saying, "I've been in my attic. I can't take it anymore. The water is up to my neck. I don't think I can hold out." And that's happening as we speak.

You know what really upsets me, Garland? We told everybody the importance of the 17th Street Canal issue. We said, "Please, please take care of this. We don't care what you do. Figure it out."

WWL: Who'd you say that to?

NAGIN: Everybody: the governor, Homeland Security, FEMA. You name it, we said it.

And they allowed that pumping station next to Pumping Station 6 to go under water. Our sewage and water board people ... stayed there and endangered their lives.

And what happened when that pumping station went down, the water started flowing again in the city, and it starting getting to levels that probably killed more people.

In addition to that, we had water flowing through the pipes in the city. That's a power station over there.

So there's no water flowing anywhere on the east bank of Orleans Parish. So our critical water supply was destroyed because of lack of action.

WWL: Why couldn't they drop the 3,000-pound sandbags or the containers that they were talking about earlier? Was it an engineering feat that just couldn't be done?

NAGIN: They said it was some pulleys that they had to manufacture. But, you know, in a state of emergency, man, you are creative, you figure out ways to get stuff done.

Then they told me that they went overnight, and they built 17 concrete structures and they had the pulleys on them and they were going to drop them.

I flew over that thing yesterday, and it's in the same shape that it was after the storm hit. There is nothing happening. And they're feeding the public a line of bull and they're spinning, and people are dying down here.

WWL: If some of the public called and they're right, that there's a law that the president, that the federal government can't do anything without local or state requests, would you request martial law?

NAGIN: I've already called for martial law in the city of New Orleans. We did that a few days ago.

WWL: Did the governor do that, too?

NAGIN: I don't know. I don't think so.

But we called for martial law when we realized that the looting was getting out of control. And we redirected all of our police officers back to patrolling the streets. They were dead-tired from saving people, but they worked all night because we thought this thing was going to blow wide open last night. And so we redirected all of our resources, and we hold it under check.

I'm not sure if we can do that another night with the current resources.

And I am telling you right now: They're showing all these reports of people looting and doing all that weird stuff, and they are doing that, but people are desperate and they're trying to find food and water, the majority of them.

Now you got some knuckleheads out there, and they are taking advantage of this lawless -- this situation where, you know, we can't really control it, and they're doing some awful, awful things. But that's a small majority of the people. Most people are looking to try and survive.

And one of the things people -- nobody's talked about this. Drugs flowed in and out of New Orleans and the surrounding metropolitan area so freely it was scary to me, and that's why we were having the escalation in murders. People don't want to talk about this, but I'm going to talk about it.

You have drug addicts that are now walking around this city looking for a fix, and that's the reason why they were breaking in hospitals and drugstores. They're looking for something to take the edge off of their jones, if you will.

And right now, they don't have anything to take the edge off. And they've probably found guns. So what you're seeing is drug-starving crazy addicts, drug addicts, that are wrecking havoc. And we don't have the manpower to adequately deal with it. We can only target certain sections of the city and form a perimeter around them and hope to God that we're not overrun.

WWL: Well, you and I must be in the minority. Because apparently there's a section of our citizenry out there that thinks because of a law that says the federal government can't come in unless requested by the proper people, that everything that's going on to this point has been done as good as it can possibly be.

NAGIN: Really?

WWL: I know you don't feel that way.

NAGIN: Well, did the tsunami victims request? Did it go through a formal process to request?

You know, did the Iraqi people request that we go in there? Did they ask us to go in there? What is more important?

And I'll tell you, man, I'm probably going get in a whole bunch of trouble. I'm probably going to get in so much trouble it ain't even funny. You probably won't even want to deal with me after this interview is over.

WWL: You and I will be in the funny place together.

NAGIN: But we authorized $8 billion to go to Iraq lickety-quick. After 9/11, we gave the president unprecedented powers lickety-quick to take care of New York and other places.

Now, you mean to tell me that a place where most of your oil is coming through, a place that is so unique when you mention New Orleans anywhere around the world, everybody's eyes light up -- you mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people that have died and thousands more that are dying every day, that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources that we need? Come on, man.

You know, I'm not one of those drug addicts. I am thinking very clearly.

And I don't know whose problem it is. I don't know whether it's the governor's problem. I don't know whether it's the president's problem, but somebody needs to get their ass on a plane and sit down, the two of them, and figure this out right now.

WWL: What can we do here?

NAGIN: Keep talking about it.

WWL: We'll do that. What else can we do?

NAGIN: Organize people to write letters and make calls to their congressmen, to the president, to the governor. Flood their doggone offices with requests to do something. This is ridiculous.

I don't want to see anybody do anymore goddamn press conferences. Put a moratorium on press conferences. Don't do another press conference until the resources are in this city. And then come down to this city and stand with us when there are military trucks and troops that we can't even count.

Don't tell me 40,000 people are coming here. They're not here. It's too doggone late. Now get off your asses and do something, and let's fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country.

WWL: I'll say it right now, you're the only politician that's called and called for arms like this. And if -- whatever it takes, the governor, president -- whatever law precedent it takes, whatever it takes, I bet that the people listening to you are on your side.

NAGIN: Well, I hope so, Garland. I am just -- I'm at the point now where it don't matter. People are dying. They don't have homes. They don't have jobs. The city of New Orleans will never be the same in this time.

WWL: We're both pretty speechless here.

NAGIN: Yeah, I don't know what to say. I got to go.

WWL: OK. Keep in touch. Keep in touch.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: trick]
    #4612036 - 09/02/05 01:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I listened to this this morning. The mayor and the interviewer were both in tears at the end.

I think it's great though that Ray had the balls to tell it like it is. He probably has nothing to lose at this point now that his city is destroyed.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: moog]
    #4612073 - 09/02/05 01:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ray Nagin is a hero


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: Unagipie]
    #4612107 - 09/02/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

At least he's stepping up to the fucking plate. You know something else that smells funny is that the two governors of Mississippi and Albama are republicans and they're saying everything is going fine, while, Nagin is the one that isn't taking any shit. This is beyond politics. If you want to save lives then save them but, Bush doesn't give a shit. These are poor black people in New Orleans. 67% of New Orleans is black. He doesn't care for these people.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: Unagipie]
    #4612108 - 09/02/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i like this guy alot! he fuckin right ya know?...why the fuck are there still people trapped on there roofs for this long?..i hope bush gets shot when he gets into new orleans!!


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: sekhui]
    #4612115 - 09/02/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

sekhui said:
i like this guy alot! he fuckin right ya know?...why the fuck are there still people trapped on there roofs for this long?..i hope bush gets shot when he gets into new orleans!!




Now that I think about it, that's probably one reason why he won't go down there. Fucking pussy.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: trick]
    #4612140 - 09/02/05 01:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

no shit! this idiot we call our president needs to get his shit together!


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: trick]
    #4612159 - 09/02/05 01:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Not takin' any shit??? This fuckbag is the single biggest evader of responsibility I ever heard in my life. First line-local. Second line-state. Third line-federal. First entity to fail-HIS. Second entity to fail- Blanco. Last line- we'll see. The people of NO are not exactly distinguishing themselves either. The scum are rising to the top and word to all you armchair anarchists - is this what you think is a good idea for daily existence? Because this is pretty close to what you'll get. "Escape From New York".
They aint got a Giuliani. They just have a whiny bitch blaming everybody else. Too bad for them. The fuck's cops are quitting en masse, although it's hard to blame them too much and now the feds will have to send in shooters to counter the looters. I generally have great respect for people who try to actually do things and will stand up for people who take action, rightly or wrongly, but this guy is a total cunt. It is his failure more than anyone else's and he has the fucking audacity to complain about everybody else's. And Blanco? What the fuck has she done other than cry on TV? Please, both of you, fall on your swords.

This hurricane hit 3 states pretty hard. Only one is totally fucked. It's totally fucked partially because of these assholes and their predecessors. If the levees that allowed the city to even exist had held there would be no issue. But they wouldn't pay for them. Why should Wisconsin taxpayers fund their levees? I am not remotely interested in this asshole's bleatings. "Oh we don't have to worry about anything, the feds will take care of it." Yeah, good government there pal. Way to stand up and grab the bull, you whiny sack of unemployed shit. (My twenty to your one the fuck still cashes his paycheck)


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4612228 - 09/02/05 01:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

They should rename New Orleans 'Lake Nagin'.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4612235 - 09/02/05 01:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

this disaster eclipses 9/11 by leaps and bounds. 9/11 happened, then it was over. This is an ongoing race against time and someone is fucking up badly. The comparison to guiliani is worthless.

It's the biggest national disaster in american history and you make it sound like the locals should just be able to mop up the mess in a couple days. It's a federal matter. This is why fema suposedly exists (though this isnt the first time they've dropped the ball) and they haven't done much of anything yet! There are hundreds of buses just sitting around not evacuating people. wtf is tht? Is it the mayors fault because he couldn't find enough bus drivers? He is begging to get those people out of new orleans, but it's a tiny bit hard to run your local government smoothly when your whole city is under water and overrun by crazy assholes with ak-47's. Jesus, give the guy a break. I'm sure if he could wave a magic wand and make jelly beans and water rain from the sky he would do so.

Theres a 110 degree heat index down there and people aren't getting water. Someone is fucking up big time.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4612236 - 09/02/05 01:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ray Nagin = The Left's new Rudy Giuliani


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4612270 - 09/02/05 02:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Not takin' any shit???  This fuckbag is the single biggest evader of responsibility I ever heard in my life.  First line-local.  Second line-state.  Third line-federal.  First entity to fail-HIS.  Second entity to fail- Blanco.  Last line- we'll see.  The people of NO are not exactly distinguishing themselves either.  The scum are rising to the top and word to all you armchair anarchists - is this what you think is a good idea for daily existence? Because this is pretty close to what you'll get.  "Escape From New York".
They aint got a Giuliani.  They just have a whiny bitch blaming everybody else.  Too bad for them.  The fuck's cops are quitting en masse, although it's hard to blame them too much and now the feds will have to send in shooters to counter the looters.  I generally have great respect for people who try to actually do things and will stand up for people who take action, rightly or wrongly, but this guy is a total cunt.  It is his failure more than anyone else's and he has the fucking audacity to complain about everybody else's.  And Blanco?  What the fuck has she done other than cry on TV?  Please, both of you, fall on your swords. 

This hurricane hit 3 states pretty hard.  Only one is totally fucked.  It's totally fucked partially because of these assholes and their predecessors.  If the levees that allowed the city to even exist had held there would be no issue.  But they wouldn't pay for them.  Why should Wisconsin taxpayers fund their levees?  I am not remotely interested in this asshole's bleatings.  "Oh we don't have to worry about anything, the feds will take care of it."  Yeah, good government there pal.  Way to stand up and grab the bull, you whiny sack of unemployed shit.  (My twenty to your one the fuck still cashes his paycheck)




Rofl? I wasn't even defending him and yet you put all that energy towards replying to me?  :mad: I don't give a shit about any of these politicians. Ray Nagin could bite the dust for all I care, the world would be better without him. The blame for not preparing for the disaster is equally distributed. Maybe if you were down there with little water and food, in the heat, with dead bodies, feces, and toxic waste floating around you would shut the hell up.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: Unagipie]
    #4612277 - 09/02/05 02:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Except he lacks Giuliani's aptitude and sense of responsibility.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: Redstorm]
    #4612458 - 09/02/05 03:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Vex; 9/11 is not over until the buldings are replaced
Trick: The article deserved a response, not you. I owe all my friends and acolytes here my wisdom. Because they need me on their journey through the wilderness.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4612475 - 09/02/05 03:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Trick: The article deserved a response, not you. I owe all my friends and acolytes here my wisdom. Because they need me on their journey through the wilderness.




Could you teach me how to gain humility like yours? :wink:


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: Redstorm]
    #4612529 - 09/02/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

PM me.  We can arrange lessons.  There will, of course, be a fee.  Not because I need the money but because everything should have a value attached.  I'm sure we can reach an agreement that will be equitable to both parties.  I'll even teach you what equitable means.
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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4612537 - 09/02/05 03:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ya know, if you can't amuse yourself why bother.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4612561 - 09/02/05 03:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

I'm short on money, being a student and all, but I can turn tricks like you can't even imagine.


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: Redstorm]
    #4613171 - 09/02/05 06:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

my best friend is in the national gaurd and he was sent over to new orleans. I just spoke with him and he said it was unbelieveable down there!.He was almost crying. He said on almost every block there were a least 25 bodies coverd with sheets. This is fucking offle. GOD!!


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Re: Mayor to feds: 'Get off your asses' [Re: Redstorm]
    #4613202 - 09/02/05 06:18 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

At any rate Nagin has a right to be mad. The slow response to the shit happening in New Orleans kinda exposes that old deep seated racism that exists in the American white consciousness.


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