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InvisibleSwami
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Iraq and Hurricane relief
    #4604108 - 08/31/05 04:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Good thing we spent our surplus half-trillion in Iraq so there is little money left to help our own country. At least the National Guard is off adventuring instead of staying home WHERE THEY FUCKING BELONG to help out our citizens.


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OfflineMagicalMystery
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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Swami]
    #4604130 - 08/31/05 04:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The National Guard can be used over seas. The military 'belongs' where they are ordered.


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Swami]
    #4604141 - 08/31/05 05:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

How bout it. I know people have been suffering in Iraq, but now, we have a major crisis on our hands.... one million homeless and jobless over night with a huge sector of the job market wiped away.

The tax payers should come first. Bush needs to pull people out of Iraq and get them back here to deal with search and rescue, medical relief, and maintaining control. Riots and fires are busting out all over the place. Not long before the water born diseases from the cess pool NO has become will start a cholera out break.

The gulf coast here is in 3rd world civil unrest right now.


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4604142 - 08/31/05 05:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

There are plenty of National Guard troops available.


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4604144 - 08/31/05 05:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

What they are ordered to march on your city you won't be saying that.


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Sycronica]
    #4604155 - 08/31/05 05:05 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I don't live in the city, I live in the country. I really hope they don't do that, I'd feel bad about the resolution of it.


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From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4604162 - 08/31/05 05:06 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'm watching FOX now, ready for Bush's blabbering idiocy to come on. Tons of national guardsmen throwing MRE cases to people. Lots of USCG choppers out there rescuing people.


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From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
David Lane


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4604192 - 08/31/05 05:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Haha. A Bush speech? I always find the carefully selected audience members to be humorous. Clap. Appraisal. Saluting. Though clearly the majority of the country does not support what he is jabbering on about.


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OfflineProsgeopax
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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4604371 - 08/31/05 06:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalMystery said:
The National Guard can be used over seas. The military 'belongs' where they are ordered.



Yes you are right, empire is more important than defending the homeland and being available for domestic emergencies.


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4604379 - 08/31/05 06:22 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

the empire needs to start looking for oil. i live in south Texas near a refinery and it cost me almost $2.50 a gallon to fill it up today.


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OfflineProsgeopax
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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4604387 - 08/31/05 06:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps we could get a better return on tax money if it was diverted towards research into alternate sources of energy and/or tax breaks for such things as telecommuting (which would also reduce pollution and the need for energy without a change in infrastructure). Our current course seems rather short sighted and is in effect, subsidizing big oil through military expenditures.


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You can accept, reject, or examine and test any new idea that comes to you. The wise man chooses the third way.
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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4604404 - 08/31/05 06:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Hippo for President!


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4604409 - 08/31/05 06:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i saw on fox news $6.00 a gallon in Atlanta and people fighting to get in line.

maybe we need chaos, to get us off the nipple. (oil)


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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OfflineProsgeopax
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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4604431 - 08/31/05 06:41 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I dunno, nipples and oil have always been a fun combination. :wink:


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4604528 - 08/31/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/story.asp?id=1746 - Seems that the Atlanta National Guard thinks that they are doing a good enough job.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9117367/ - Despite Iraq deployment, troop strength for hurricane relief is strong.

http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/story.asp?id=1732


A National Guard General says that they have enough troops, if anyone here is a more credible source than that let us know and I'll consider their opinion then. Until then, reactionaries using anything as an excuse for why the Iraq war is a wrong idea need to keep their opinions to themselves.


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
David Lane


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4604567 - 08/31/05 07:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I said, "Yes, you are right." Empire is a better use of resources than conserving them. Empire is a better use of police officers, fire personnel and medical personnel who could be home taking care of business and spending time with their families instead of being on extended tours of duty. Empire is good for meeting recruitment goals of all the armed forces. It's readily apparent to all with blinders on that the National Guard is guarding our nation by participating in foreign adventures that have NOTHING to do with protecting the homeland or handling domestic emergencies.


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Money doesn't grow on trees, but deficits do grow under Bushes.

You can accept, reject, or examine and test any new idea that comes to you. The wise man chooses the third way.
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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Swami]
    #4604582 - 08/31/05 07:20 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

hey man, iraq has been sooo worth it i mean we found weapons of mass destruction.....oh wait....well we provided a stable democracy for the iraqi people....oh wait...... yeah i was wrong, the war has been a clossal waste of lives and money.


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4604595 - 08/31/05 07:22 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

wait i forgot, we're fighting them over there so we dont have to over here :lol: :lol: ohhh man, thats the best one... that right wing, they really know comedy :lol: they come up with some funny excuses


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4604907 - 08/31/05 08:30 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

But Saddam Hussein attacked us! Don't you remember 9/11?

Of course, in your racist "Durka durka durka" ramblings, I don't know if you'd much better be able to tell the difference between Osama and Saddam than Bush has done.


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Re: Iraq and Hurricane relief [Re: Ravus]
    #4604933 - 08/31/05 08:34 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

yeah because making fun of ultra conservative islam makes me rascist :rolleyes: i make fun of any and all ultra-conservatives equally...i cant just stick to ripping on white conservative christians loonies, that would make me rascist. :wink:


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