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Psychonaut
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Chaliponga and Rue Brew
#4598065 - 08/30/05 04:24 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, first time attempting Ayahuasca and I'm looking for advice.
I've secured 10g of Peganum harmala and 25g of Diplopterys cabrerana.
I was wondering what would be the best method to prep the 2 and the dosage for a first timer.
I've done a lot of searching around a haven't seen a recipe that uses both.
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Re: Chaliponga and Rue Brew [Re: Psychonaut]
#4598388 - 08/30/05 07:56 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've researched alot also, never done the deed, but as far as the Syrian Rue goes, 3-5 grams should be enough, anymore and it might be unpleasant. Grind it up and capsule it, or make an acidic brew to capture the goods. The acidic brew is also a good way to prepare the Chaliponga, though I know very little about that. Maybe a specific search in the Erowid archives? GL
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Re: Chaliponga and Rue Brew [Re: ToolTroll]
#4599135 - 08/30/05 01:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello!!
Looking forwards to the brews myself!!!!
Easy on the Chilaponga,that shit is way more potent (If freshly dry not to old) than chacruna i would only use a few grams of each?? Eat 2 to 3 grams crushed rue,wait 15 min. then take your brew of a few leafs!
The best way to expierience this is with the VINE not rue. the B.caapi at 40grms. Also i have read that useing the vine alone at first is good,getting to know it is best! BE VERY CARE FULL of what ya eat that day and 2 days later NO BAD FOODS..... Hopefully you have researched this? good luck! get back with results,check the site Ayahuasca.com
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Re: Chaliponga and Rue Brew [Re: bluelou]
#4599493 - 08/30/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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3 gr of Peganum harmala is just perfect for first time.
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Re: Chaliponga and Rue Brew [Re: Tinkal]
#4602529 - 08/31/05 04:11 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys, thanks for the helps. Seems that info you gave me is along the same line I've gathered from research.
So, here's the plan:
- Roast the 3g rue seeds in a dry pan, then grind them and boil/simmer for 15-20 minutes in water then strain. - Boil 8g of Diplopterys cabrerana for 15-20 minutes for in water then strain. - Drink back the rue brew and them drink back the cadrerana brew 15 mins later - Puke 
(yes, I've reviewed using MAO-inhibitors and what foods to avoid)
Guess it will be a week or 2 before I get to this, But I'll post the results.
Thanks again
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Re: Chaliponga and Rue Brew [Re: Psychonaut]
#4602792 - 08/31/05 08:15 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why roast the peganum harmala?
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Re: Chaliponga and Rue Brew [Re: Psiloman]
#4603592 - 08/31/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've read that roasting them, works like roasting coffee bean, helping kill most of the bad taste...but never tried it, so I'll let you know how it works.
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