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trendal
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: CaptainH13]
#4604665 - 08/31/05 05:39 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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The next few weeks are going to be a GOOD example of what living through Peak Oil will be like. Supply disruptions of several days, weeks, or a couple months will result from things that never used to cause problems.
Take note of what happens. It will become much more normal over the next 10 years, I expect.
At first it will be short-term supply disruptions due to "the little things" that never used to result in supply problems. Storms and terrorism will have a large effect on oil production because demand will almost be equal with production - there is no room for error. Eventually the disruptions will be caused by a plain lack of supply. By that point we will be post-peak, probably 5-10 years.
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4604741 - 08/31/05 05:57 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Obviously the extreme end of the scale....but holy fuck!
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Shroomism
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4604749 - 08/31/05 05:59 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I remember when premium gas was 99 cents a gallon at this place near my house, maybe.. 3 years ago.
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DNKYD
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4604756 - 08/31/05 06:00 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fucking sick.
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AliceDee
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: DNKYD]
#4604768 - 08/31/05 06:04 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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how would a hurrican effect gas prices??? we get all our gas from a completely different part of the world...
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: Shroomism]
#4604776 - 08/31/05 06:04 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Earlier today the EPA announced that they were going to waive some of the restrictions on diesel and gasoline, letting the oil companies sell dirty fuel. At first it was just for the affected area, but in Bush's speech this afternoon he said it was now for the whole country.
Why conserve...when you can damage the environment instead?
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: AliceDee]
#4604778 - 08/31/05 06:05 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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You obviously live in a hole/cave/box. There are refineries down there that are UNDER WATER that give us 10% of our oil.
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trendal
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: AliceDee]
#4604811 - 08/31/05 06:09 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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You get your oil from different parts of the world. Most (if not all) of your gasoline is refined in the USA.
Apparently a good deal of that oil from other countries was shipped to the New Orleans port (there's actually an offshore oil terminal called LOOP). All that has been shut down by the hurricane, so no oil is being offloaded at NO. That wouldn't be too much of a problem because Bush just released oil from the reserve to cover it.
The thing that is a problem is that 8-10 refineries have been shut down by the hurricane. There's enough oil sitting around, but not enough refining capacity - so less gasoline.
I heard BBC is reporting 20 rigs in the Gulf are "missing", probably means they're on the bottom. Something like 90% of the rigs in the Gulf were shut down due to the storm, and not all of them have even started to come back online yet. Many could take months to be repaired.
It's a messy situation, to say the least.
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4604841 - 08/31/05 06:16 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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i just went to the gas station there was at least 20 cars per pump waiting
lucky my commute is one mile think ill take my bicycle
real crazy reminds me of a economic collapse satiation
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trendal
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: buckwheat]
#4604851 - 08/31/05 06:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did anyone see that made-for-TV movie a few months back, "Oil Storm"??
I heard this is eerily similar to what happens in the movie: a hurricane shuts down Gulf production/refining and then the Saudi's have a revolution and stop selling to the US.
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4604856 - 08/31/05 06:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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He i swear these hurricanes are man made too much of a coincidence for me
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peeper
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: buckwheat]
#4604859 - 08/31/05 06:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are gas stations in my town that are out of gas.I think the people around here will go into a frenzy if there is a huge shortage.
Anywhere you go you see people in huge suv's with gas cans filling up everything that they have.
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Redstorm
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: peeper]
#4604871 - 08/31/05 06:23 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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CNN Money says gas will hit $4.00 average in the next month, and stay at that price for about hlf a year.
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trendal
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: peeper]
#4604885 - 08/31/05 06:25 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
peeper said: Anywhere you go you see people in huge suv's with gas cans filling up everything that they have.
Let the hoarding begin!
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riverjorge420
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4604975 - 08/31/05 06:39 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am so glad I have only my trusty pedal bike that I rely on, I have not drove a motor vehicle in 2 years
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Shroomism
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4605027 - 08/31/05 06:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just checked the prices at the gas station up the street - $3.36 for 91 octane That up from $2.65.. three days ago.
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: trendal]
#4605096 - 08/31/05 06:57 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Someone may have mentioned this already. I've been on top of the Katrina coverage and today the U.S. Coast guard went out to check the status of the oil rigs in the gulf. I don't know how many we regularly had but they said 20 of them were off and afloat or sunk. Some they showed knocked loose and leaking oil.
Then they panned the port where the refinery is and it was demolished.
So there is some truth to the problems Katrina caused with our ability to produce oil and gas from the gulf right now.
I don't know if that justifies price hikes or how much of one if it does. We're up to about 3 dollars a gallon now in Tampa, Fl.
What a mess!
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Quote:
riverjorge420 said: I am so glad I have only my trusty pedal bike that I rely on, I have not drove a motor vehicle in 2 years
I never did get my license
I need to remember to pick up a couple spare tires, though. Just in case...
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Re: Gas prices revisited *DELETED* [Re: trendal]
#4606411 - 08/31/05 10:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Post deleted by blinkidiotReason for deletion: Im sorry
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Re: Gas prices revisited [Re: blink]
#4606529 - 08/31/05 11:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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you guys think the high gass prices are crazy try this out, the fucking gass station around here are out of gass! its not crazy expensive, there's none fucking left! when i was driving around today you'd see lines over a block long just to get into the gass station. the turnlanes were overflowing with cars. this shit is rediculous. the gasswatch thing said tha the nations high prices right now is Atl, GA. fucking great for us georgia folk isn't it?
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