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Incubating Your Casing...
    #4599803 - 08/30/05 06:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I have a 3 casings right now.

1 big one and 2 smaller foil pan ones.

I cased 2 days ago from BRF cakes to 50/50 verm/peat and CaCO3.

In the big one there is a small amount of mycelia poking through.

I haven't checked the smaller ones becasue I have foil over them and don't want to hassle getting it off then getting it back on..




So how long should I keep incubating the casings for.

It would seem that you incubate until the casing layer is 40-50% colonized then do a very lite scratch and fruit...

Is that right?

What do you do?

Thanks :smile:


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Re: Incubating Your Casing... [Re: Original]
    #4599838 - 08/30/05 06:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

as soon as you see myc poking through, patch that area and put in fruiting chamber. sometimes i dont even patch if i catch the casing early enough with just some myc poking through. if you wait for your casing to have 40-50% myc poking through then you have a good chance of getting cottonweb mold or overlay.


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Re: Incubating Your Casing... [Re: Original]
    #4599854 - 08/30/05 06:53 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

that's an openion question, so all i can tell you is what i do. I like to fruit when it's about 10% and you can see the mycelia in the valleys and lower spots. I case 1"deep on dung with 25verm/75peat ph adjusted.


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Re: Incubating Your Casing... [Re: Shaw]
    #4599868 - 08/30/05 06:56 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

So the fruits start from the bottom substrate layer and not from the mycelium on top then?


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-Johnny Cochran on the use of crumbled vs. whole cakes..
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Re: Incubating Your Casing... [Re: Original]
    #4599887 - 08/30/05 07:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Also, when you say put in the fruting chamber do you mean lights on too? Or just for the humidity?

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Copied and pasted from Ryche Hawk's 50/50 verm/ peat Tek

Within about 2 days you'll start seeing the mycelium overtake the casing layer, you want to add a light amount of 50/50 mix over these first high spots so all the mycelium is coming to the surface around the same time, although this is not written in stone.

Within a week to 2 weeks it will be almost completely covered in mycelium. Then the mycelium will stop growing for a few days. The mycelium network is establishing itself, becoming stronger and stronger preparing to produce mushrooms. Then pinning will start. You will begin to see lots of bright white small dots about the size of a pen head. These will form into mushrooms soon thereafter. Harvest time is usually 10-21 days after casing.

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7977
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It never really says when to put into the fruting chamber.


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Colonized cakes smell like South Florida...

Seriously...
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I can't sleep cuz the mexicans keep lighting their fireworks...
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If ya don't want trouble, ya gots ta crumble...

-Johnny Cochran on the use of crumbled vs. whole cakes..
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Re: Incubating Your Casing... [Re: Original]
    #4599945 - 08/30/05 07:10 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

no, they grow from the top layer. yes, you'll want some light to innitiate pinning and show them which way is up.

there is no one way to do it. Ryche is a good guy with alot of experience and info, but i disagree with some of his methods and theories. If you want to do it his way, that's great, but i have no useful advice for you.


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Re: Incubating Your Casing... [Re: Shaw]
    #4599965 - 08/30/05 07:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not trying to argue or anything lol but:

It seems like the more mycelium on the top casing layer (to a certain point) would make more pins which means more fruits...

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Let's say I went to my incubator right now and put my casings in my FC, how long would mycelium keep growing on top before pins started?

:smile:




And I know there is no one way to do it, I'm just trying to figure some stuff out...


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Colonized cakes smell like South Florida...

Seriously...
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I can't sleep cuz the mexicans keep lighting their fireworks...
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If ya don't want trouble, ya gots ta crumble...

-Johnny Cochran on the use of crumbled vs. whole cakes..
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Edited by Original (08/30/05 07:17 PM)


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Re: Incubating Your Casing... [Re: Original]
    #4600922 - 08/30/05 10:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Original said:
Also, when you say put in the fruting chamber do you mean lights on too? Or just for the humidity?

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Copied and pasted from Ryche Hawk's 50/50 verm/ peat Tek

Within about 2 days you'll start seeing the mycelium overtake the casing layer, you want to add a light amount of 50/50 mix over these first high spots so all the mycelium is coming to the surface around the same time, although this is not written in stone.

Within a week to 2 weeks it will be almost completely covered in mycelium. Then the mycelium will stop growing for a few days. The mycelium network is establishing itself, becoming stronger and stronger preparing to produce mushrooms. Then pinning will start. You will begin to see lots of bright white small dots about the size of a pen head. These will form into mushrooms soon thereafter. Harvest time is usually 10-21 days after casing.

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7977
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It never really says when to put into the fruting chamber.




Read my pinning strategy to learn the why where hows


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