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 PerfectlyDefectd
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 Effects of Acid on the Body 
#4599122 - 08/30/05 01:44 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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i was just wondering what kind of long term damage acid can do to the body, is it similiar to eating shrooms.. cause i think ive read that shrooms can cause u to have problems in ur spinal fluid later in life.. thanks
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shpongled1
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No, mushrooms do not cause your spine to bleed, they do not cause brain damage, or spinal fluid damage. Same goes for acid. There are only mental side-effects from mushrooms and lsd. Those can be far worse than any physical side effects though... so you should always be careful with the set, setting, and your psychological condition when consuming psychedelics.
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PerfectlyDefectd
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 Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: shpongled1]
#4599185 - 08/30/05 01:59 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok well i know for a FACT that shrooms cause spinal fluid contamination.. as for lsd im not so sure thats why i asked.. but for u to say shrooms dont.. thats a mistake.. atleast according to all the research that i have conducted over the past 6 months including numerous medical journals.. thanks for your help, if u have a site that supports ur claim.. please post a link.. thanks
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coda
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it sure would be nice to see you post your facts about spinal fluid contamination due to ingestion of mushrooms.
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Oddish
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Quote:
PerfectlyDefectd said:
ok well i know for a FACT that shrooms cause spinal fluid contamination.. as for lsd im not so sure thats why i asked.. but for u to say shrooms dont.. thats a mistake.. atleast according to all the research that i have conducted over the past 6 months including numerous medical journals.. thanks for your help, if u have a site that supports ur claim.. please post a link.. thanks
I'd like to see a link that supports yours.
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shpongled1
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Oddish]
#4599229 - 08/30/05 02:08 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would like to as well because it would go against all the research I've done over the last 2 years... Heck, you can even check out www.theantidrug.com and even THEY don't mention spinal fluid contamination.
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coda
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: coda]
#4599239 - 08/30/05 02:11 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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taken from erowid:
" It is highly unlikely that psilocin or psilocybin cause physical damage to your nervous system or its supporting systems. If anything, it may be possible that it would cause liver damage in high or repetitive doses, but this is unlikely as well. The similarity in structure between psiloc(yb)in and serotonin would indicate that they are likely processed by the same enzymes and yield similar, water soluble, non-toxic metabolites (though this is a gross generalization, and there are many exceptions to this rule; simple changes to a structure can have drastic changes on effect, metabolization, and toxicity).
The rumor of spinal fluid alteration from the use of psilocybin sounds like a bastardization of a similar rumor about MDMA which most likely stemmed from MDMA research which involved taking spinal taps of MDMA users in order to check for metabolite levels in the body.
It is most likely that your bad back is due to more common causes such as stress, injury (improper lifting), lack of exercise (not an insult, strong abdomenals are key to a healthy back), or nutritional imbalances. I would suggest seeing a doctor, acupuncturist, chiropractor, or massage therapist."
http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=59
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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*
-A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)
Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.
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ThePredator
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Prove that shrooms cause spinal cord fluid contamination, because I was not aware that seretonin levels could contaminate spinal cord fluids. In witch case if it did the same would happen with LSD, DMT, and alot of other substances (including pot, it affects seretonin levels a little too).
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Limelight
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: ThePredator]
#4599249 - 08/30/05 02:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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In for original poster's retort.
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shpongled1
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Limelight]
#4599260 - 08/30/05 02:18 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lets not all gang up on him, he is just misinformed, atleast he came to the right place. After all, aren't we here to help educate each other about the substances we use?
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Limelight
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: shpongled1]
#4599270 - 08/30/05 02:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not gnaing up, its a good point that this is a place to learn. I just want to see waht he has to say 
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shpongled1
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Limelight]
#4599277 - 08/30/05 02:25 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not accusing anyone in particular as none of the replies have been agressive, but I'm just saying ya kno
P.S. Man, that shroom's awesome!
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PerfectlyDefectd
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: shpongled1]
#4599522 - 08/30/05 03:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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in my defense.. the reason im saying this is because how do they test for shrooms.. 1 way.. spinal tap.. as of now atleast its the only way.. how would a spinal tap show if u have used shrooms unless they contaiminate your spinal fluid?
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QuantumMeltdown
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That is not true. They don't use a spinal tap to test for shrooms. It can be detected in the urine. Your are tragically misinformed dude. Where did you get all this information from your dealer? It certainly wasn't any credible source. Check out these links please.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_testing.shtml
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query...p;dopt=Abstract
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_test
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"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
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Edited by QuantumMeltdown (08/30/05 03:42 PM)
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PerfectlyDefectd
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are you serious... their are 100's of sites that say they test for shrooms by doing spinal taps!
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Vulture
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wow this is very strange
1 they dont do a spinal tap to test for ANY drug
i think this started as a LSD rumor years ago....same as doing it 2 times makes you insane or whatever. Then i herd the same thing about MDMA last wek. And now mushrooms?....wtf?
you arent going to test positive for LSD or shrooms and ANY drugtest unless ingested that same day and specifically tested for that drug.
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PerfectlyDefectd
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Vulture]
#4599563 - 08/30/05 03:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah the LSD rumor was that it pushed ur spine into ur brain or something and that caused you to trip..
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Vulture
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Quote:
PerfectlyDefectd said:
are you serious... their are 100's of sites that say they test for shrooms by doing spinal taps!
please enlighten us on which ones
the only site you need is www.erowid.org
or posibbly hte lyceam
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Ramuh
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Then post one man..I have yet to see it, and I think the rest of us here are in the same boat.
Again, from Erowid:
"A spinal tap would not identify whether or not an individual ever done lsd, mushrooms, or any other controlled substance in the past. It could be used just as a normal blood testing procedure is used to detect recent use, however spinal taps can be potentially life threatening and there is virtually no chance that one would be required to have one in order to become an airline pilot."
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Vulture
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PerfectlyDefectd said:
yeah the LSD rumor was that it pushed ur spine into ur brain or something and that caused you to trip..
lol thats a new one on me.
i swear...these things just get modified and built upon and untill they start moving to other drugs.
word of mouth is not reliable at all
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QuantumMeltdown
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Check my links particularly the second one. Whatever sites told you that are scare tactic propaganda sites. And check this one. http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=189
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Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
-Mark Twain
"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett
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PerfectlyDefectd
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im not saying that is true.. but that was a rumor that is posted on some sites or i heard somewhere
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PerfectlyDefectd
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http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4549
^ is just a forum like this.. so no not medical
i might just be misreading and being a complete dumbass.. ill continue looking.. i could have sworn i read this somewhere thou.. numerous times.. but when im searchin for it.. i cant see it to save my ass on here.. lol..
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QuantumMeltdown
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You said "You know for a FACT". How old are you dude? You sound young and gullible. Knowing for a fact means alot more then just something you might have read or heard somewhere.
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-QuantumMeltdown
Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
-Mark Twain
"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett
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QuantumMeltdown
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Quote:
PerfectlyDefectd said:
http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4549
^ is just a forum like this.. so no not medical
i might just be misreading and being a complete dumbass.. ill continue looking.. i could have sworn i read this somewhere thou.. numerous times.. but when im searchin for it.. i cant see it to save my ass on here.. lol..
Did you even bother reading any of the links I posted for you?
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-QuantumMeltdown
Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
-Mark Twain
"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett
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PerfectlyDefectd
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yeah im familiar with all of those sites.. ive seen them, i just remember reading this repeatdly.. however i wouldnt consider forums to be repitable.. so im not going to post shit from a bunch of lil forums like this.. cause that does nothing to prove a point..
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shpongled1
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So, will you post your factual evidence?
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QuantumMeltdown
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: shpongled1]
#4599711 - 08/30/05 04:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think its either a 15 year old or a troll dude. Don't expect much. No one could be that dense.
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Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
-Mark Twain
"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett
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coda
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Quote:
QuantumMeltdown said:
I think its either a 15 year old or a troll dude. Don't expect much. No one could be that dense.
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To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . .
-JG
i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*
-A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)
Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.
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johnjohnandjamal
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: coda]
#4600307 - 08/30/05 06:29 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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How could you have 274 posts at a MUSHROOM site and still know nothing about MUSHROOMS? You are a champ!
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LedHead
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Quote:
johnjohnandjamal said:
How could you have 274 posts at a MUSHROOM site and still know nothing about MUSHROOMS? You are a champ!
more like a chump
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Limelight
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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: LedHead]
#4603097 - 08/31/05 09:58 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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More like a chode
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the only thing I think any drugs damage, is the goverments ability
to get the people to believe the shit it is trying to force on us,
such as rumors, and the wars the war pigs want to fight for oil.
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