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OfflinePerfectlyDefectd
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Effects of Acid on the Body
    #4599122 - 08/30/05 03:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i was just wondering what kind of long term damage acid can do to the body, is it similiar to eating shrooms.. cause i think ive read that shrooms can cause u to have problems in ur spinal fluid later in life.. thanks


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599146 - 08/30/05 03:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

No, mushrooms do not cause your spine to bleed, they do not cause brain damage, or spinal fluid damage. Same goes for acid. There are only mental side-effects from mushrooms and lsd. Those can be far worse than any physical side effects though... so you should always be careful with the set, setting, and your psychological condition when consuming psychedelics.


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: shpongled1]
    #4599185 - 08/30/05 03:59 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

ok well i know for a FACT that shrooms cause spinal fluid contamination.. as for lsd im not so sure thats why i asked.. but for u to say shrooms dont.. thats a mistake.. atleast according to all the research that i have conducted over the past 6 months including numerous medical journals.. thanks for your help, if u have a site that supports ur claim.. please post a link.. thanks


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599216 - 08/30/05 04:05 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

it sure would be nice to see you post your facts about spinal fluid contamination due to ingestion of mushrooms.


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599217 - 08/30/05 04:06 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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ok well i know for a FACT that shrooms cause spinal fluid contamination.. as for lsd im not so sure thats why i asked.. but for u to say shrooms dont.. thats a mistake.. atleast according to all the research that i have conducted over the past 6 months including numerous medical journals.. thanks for your help, if u have a site that supports ur claim.. please post a link.. thanks




I'd like to see a link that supports yours.


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Oddish]
    #4599229 - 08/30/05 04:08 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I would like to as well because it would go against all the research I've done over the last 2 years... Heck, you can even check out www.theantidrug.com and even THEY don't mention spinal fluid contamination.


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: coda]
    #4599239 - 08/30/05 04:11 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

taken from erowid:

" It is highly unlikely that psilocin or psilocybin cause physical damage to your nervous system or its supporting systems. If anything, it may be possible that it would cause liver damage in high or repetitive doses, but this is unlikely as well. The similarity in structure between psiloc(yb)in and serotonin would indicate that they are likely processed by the same enzymes and yield similar, water soluble, non-toxic metabolites (though this is a gross generalization, and there are many exceptions to this rule; simple changes to a structure can have drastic changes on effect, metabolization, and toxicity).

The rumor of spinal fluid alteration from the use of psilocybin sounds like a bastardization of a similar rumor about MDMA which most likely stemmed from MDMA research which involved taking spinal taps of MDMA users in order to check for metabolite levels in the body.

It is most likely that your bad back is due to more common causes such as stress, injury (improper lifting), lack of exercise (not an insult, strong abdomenals are key to a healthy back), or nutritional imbalances. I would suggest seeing a doctor, acupuncturist, chiropractor, or massage therapist."

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=59


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599246 - 08/30/05 04:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Prove that shrooms cause spinal cord fluid contamination, because I was not aware that seretonin levels could contaminate spinal cord fluids. In witch case if it did the same would happen with LSD, DMT, and alot of other substances (including pot, it affects seretonin levels a little too).


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: ThePredator]
    #4599249 - 08/30/05 04:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

In for original poster's retort.


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Limelight]
    #4599260 - 08/30/05 04:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Lets not all gang up on him, he is just misinformed, atleast he came to the right place. After all, aren't we here to help educate each other about the substances we use?


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: shpongled1]
    #4599270 - 08/30/05 04:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not gnaing up, its a good point that this is a place to learn. I just want to see waht he has to say :mushroom2:


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Limelight]
    #4599277 - 08/30/05 04:25 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not accusing anyone in particular as none of the replies have been agressive, but I'm just saying ya kno 
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P.S. Man, that shroom's awesome!


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: shpongled1]
    #4599522 - 08/30/05 05:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

in my defense.. the reason im saying this is because how do they test for shrooms.. 1 way.. spinal tap.. as of now atleast its the only way.. how would a spinal tap show if u have used shrooms unless they contaiminate your spinal fluid?


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599539 - 08/30/05 05:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

That is not true. They don't use a spinal tap to test for shrooms. It can be detected in the urine. Your are tragically misinformed dude. Where did you get all this information from your dealer? It certainly wasn't any credible source. Check out these links please.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_testing.shtml
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query...p;dopt=Abstract
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_test


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Edited by QuantumMeltdown (08/30/05 05:42 PM)


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4599548 - 08/30/05 05:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

are you serious... their are 100's of sites that say they test for shrooms by doing spinal taps!


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599554 - 08/30/05 05:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

wow this is very strange

1 they dont do a spinal tap to test for ANY drug

i think this started as a LSD rumor years ago....same as doing it 2 times makes you insane or whatever. Then i herd the same thing about MDMA last wek. And now mushrooms?....wtf?

you arent going to test positive for LSD or shrooms and ANY drugtest unless ingested that same day and specifically tested for that drug.


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: Vulture]
    #4599563 - 08/30/05 05:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

yeah the LSD rumor was that it pushed ur spine into ur brain or something and that caused you to trip..


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599565 - 08/30/05 05:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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are you serious... their are 100's of sites that say they test for shrooms by doing spinal taps!





please enlighten us on which ones

the only site you need is www.erowid.org

or posibbly hte lyceam


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599567 - 08/30/05 05:43 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Then post one man..I have yet to see it, and I think the rest of us here are in the same boat.

Again, from Erowid:

"A spinal tap would not identify whether or not an individual ever done lsd, mushrooms, or any other controlled substance in the past. It could be used just as a normal blood testing procedure is used to detect recent use, however spinal taps can be potentially life threatening and there is virtually no chance that one would be required to have one in order to become an airline pilot."


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Re: Effects of Acid on the Body [Re: PerfectlyDefectd]
    #4599573 - 08/30/05 05:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

PerfectlyDefectd said:
yeah the LSD rumor was that it pushed ur spine into ur brain or something and that caused you to trip..




lol thats a new one on me.

i swear...these things just get modified and built upon and untill they start moving to other drugs.

word of mouth is not reliable at all


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