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OfflineMattWhite
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Misidentified Libery Cap Risks
    #4591374 - 08/28/05 05:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It's about season in the UK for Libery Caps, so I'm planning to do my first hunt soon.

Just wanting to verify the risks of eating misidentified Libery Caps.

Would I be right thiking that when consuming the mushrooms dry the worst effects from non-actives could be similar to that of food poisoning, and not death?


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: MattWhite]
    #4591698 - 08/28/05 07:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Don't eat any mushrooms if you feel that there is a chance of misidentification, it's just not worth the risk (unless you're a suicidal emo who would be equally happy with tripping or dying).


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: MattWhite]
    #4592063 - 08/28/05 09:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It depends on what you misidentify as a Liberty Cap. For example, there are Conocybe species that contain dangerous levels of amatoxins, the toxins that make some Amanita species deadly.

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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: ToxicMan]
    #4595118 - 08/29/05 03:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

IMO its hard to misidentify libs. The only one I have ever misidentified it with is psilocybe pelliculosa, which is a close cousin.


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: BigBallZMaN]
    #4595220 - 08/29/05 03:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I suggest if you do go hunting go with someone who knows what they are doing first!!! but imho libs aren't even worth looking for the trip isn't verry strong and you need to consume alot of them.


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: johahnchristo]
    #4595349 - 08/29/05 04:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

how much is alot of them? Would you need more then 1/8 for 1 person?


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: johahnchristo]
    #4595354 - 08/29/05 04:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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libs aren't even worth looking for the trip isn't verry strong and you need to consume alot of them.




I think you must have taken misidentified Libs if you think they are not worth taking. One cup of decent shroom tea and you see bog and all his angels. Never heard such rubbish in all my life.


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: astralasia]
    #4595627 - 08/29/05 06:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, libs are damn worth it, and I had som strooong trips on them. And whats strange, astralasia, you said "bog" and thats "god" in my language (polish). Wired!


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: johahnchristo]
    #4595917 - 08/29/05 07:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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but imho libs aren't even worth looking for the trip isn't verry strong and you need to consume alot of them.




Libs, in my opinion, are stronger than cubensis, cyanescens or azurescens and you need to consume hardly any at all to meet god!

It's kinda obvious you've never tried them before and have got them confused with Panaeolus subbalteatus  :crazy:

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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #4600167 - 08/30/05 07:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I dont think liberties are better than cyanescens or azures, but they are definately better than cubensis. Take 20 - 25 fresh specimens on an empty stomach to produce a decent trip. If you take more than that, you are in for an awesome time. Liberty caps have a very, very good body high, and the visuals are perhaps, the best I have experienced on any type of mushroom, and the spirituality of them (mental state of mind) is also one of the best. Never say liberty caps arent worth it! THAT HURTS!


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    #4601494 - 08/31/05 12:29 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: hcrider]
    #4602411 - 08/31/05 05:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, when it comes to Liberty Caps words "only" and "50" come together in one sentence only when specimens are rather small, in my experience;

Throughout years I was saying different things about semies dosages, perhaps my sensitivity to mushrooms has changed after eating bigger ammount once, I don`t know but that's how I see it at the moment (in medium sized mushrooms):

5 - 10  not a trip, but a shift in perception, appreciation of beauty, enhancement of emotions;

20 -25 a decent trip but still on a lower side;

30 - 40 regular trip, some more powerful effects come to play;

50 - 60 can be a strooong trip;

100 most I have eaten, you better be ready cause, as someone have put it, after you ingest em the door closes and only father time has the key back out  :smile:

Mind you this are only predictions, potency vary from mushroom to mushroom, sensitivity varies from person to person, trips varies as well, happy tripping!


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: hcrider]
    #4602945 - 08/31/05 11:20 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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when i ate libs i only ate 50 and was trippin, but i no some ppl that ate 200+ but hes fucked in the head, astralasia u said 1 cup of shrrom tea get u seein angels and stuff, about how many shrooms do u put in water and how much water do u use?




I never eat the vile things, I always brew them up and believe me it doesn't effect the potency at all. As far as how many is concerned, Psiledehysp's guide above is similar to my own experiences, although I have taken many many trips over 100 and quite a few over 200. He is right though, once you start coming up there is no stopping it, coming up on a strong trip is very intense, you just go with it, but I wouldn't recommend that anyone inexperienced taking that many, it can and does cause mental health problems.

As far as water is concerned, that depends on how many you want to take. Put the shrooms in a pan and cover with water. You don't want too much water because at the end of the day you have to drink it all. I would aim for about 3/4 of a cup(a cup being 1/2 pint) per person taking evaporation into account for about 50-60 shrooms (a proper trip). The more shrooms you brew the more water is needed and the thicker and darker it becomes.

Don't boil them, just bring them to almost boiling then simmer them for 15-20 minutes stirring occasionally. The water should change to a watery brown colour, darker if using fresh brown sticky ones. Don't be fooled by this though, it will still be very potent. Once they are ready, strain them through some muslin (cheese cloth) or a fine strainer. There will be lots of white maggots at the bottom if using fresh although it works just as well for dried. There is no need to eat the brewed shroom but you can make a smaller second brew just make sure if you like. It tastes like crap though so let it cool until you can drink it down in one, you don't want to be sipping it. The effects will come on within 15 mins.

If you are crazy enough as I was(and I really really don't recommend it) too brew a lot 500+ the water will turn into a black semi congealed jelly like substance. After downing a pint of that in one go, I didn't just peek through the keyholes of the doors of perception, I kicked them of their hinges never to be closed again. But that is a story for the trip reports I suppose.


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: astralasia]
    #4603126 - 08/31/05 12:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

haah a suicidal Emo lol


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: Dr_Mcgillicuddy]
    #4603181 - 08/31/05 12:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: Dr_Mcgillicuddy]
    #4603186 - 08/31/05 12:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well thanks for telling me how to make some tea, im defanatly gona give it a try this season.


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Re: Misidentified Libery Cap Risks [Re: johahnchristo]
    #4607801 - 09/01/05 01:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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...but imho libs aren't even worth looking for the trip isn't verry strong and you need to consume alot of them.




Wow, that is SOOOOOO untrue. I know others have said it as well, but I just had to add my 2 cents. Psilocybe Semilanceata is one of the more potent species (by weight). Check the dosage calculator, it's the second highest (of those listed). I'd love to sit down with you and consume a quarter ounce (dried) between us. You would never say those words again. Sore stomach the next day for sure.... from laughing your ass off!!! I've already had two level 4 trips this year. No matter how many times I go there, I'm always amazed when I return to shroomyland.


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