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 austio_ferocious
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 tripping off rye jars 
#4590875 - 08/28/05 12:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have read several threads and a tek or two about consumption of mycelium, or rather a tea made from cakes  . My question is this; I have several jars of aussie on rye, that look very heavily colonized, I have already filled my fruiting chamber and put several jars in the fridge to wait thier turn, I still have some jars without a home (there's no room left anywhere) and after waiting six months already, I am anxious to try out my home grown psili  . Can I just eat the rye with a spoon, or would i be better off extracting the psili. It seems to me that it is likely to leave psili in the myc if you try to extract it, whereas if you just eat the whole thing, you're sure to get it all.
anyone with experience, please chime in. Thanks all.
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Ive never done the rye cakes but ive tried and verified on the BRF, OJ method of extraction. I would suggest extraction if no one else advises you can eat the rye substrate. - I was advised not to eat my cake kuz it had Vermiculite in it but no one posted any other concerns with eating the cake.
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austio_ferocious
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I didn't use any verm. 100% rye berries. Didn't studies just come out on the benefits of eating whole grains? Anyway, I guess if nobody else advises otherwise, I'm going to have a bowl of australian rye berries for dinner... 
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kinda gross
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ixitwistedixi
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Sweet dude let me know how it goes for ya! People told me i was crazy for wanting to do this so im glad someone else feels inclined to do so as well
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austio_ferocious
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hey, I've eaten nastier stuff than that! It can't be that bad.
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Should just taste like mushies mixed w/ the substrate which is edible to begin with.
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is one trip off a jar really worth wasting several trips if you fruit it??
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Re: tripping off rye jars [Re: Nashbar]
#4591055 - 08/28/05 01:44 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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If he has no room to fruit or even store it, then yes i say eat it. And in my case if you want to trip bad enough then yes...it is expecially if your fruiting more anyways.
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austio_ferocious
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yeah, I fear that if I let them incubate any longer or sit anywhere but a fridge, then they'll start to go to shit. How many 1/2 pint jars would I need to consume to get a level 3 or better? Is there any harm in eating it wet?
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yeah try it cuz i spawn with rye and i've wondered that too but u would be better off keeping in the fridge till you have space to fruit and do you spawn the rye with h/poo cuz that would increase your yeild
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Re: tripping off rye jars [Re: mycomatt024]
#4591439 - 08/28/05 03:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeaaah you can trip off mycelium i guess, try some grown on horse poo, i bet it<s more potent 
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Quote:
fredyjenkins said:
yeaaah you can trip off mycelium i guess
it's weak and nasty
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Re: tripping off rye jars [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4591450 - 08/28/05 03:55 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
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fredyjenkins said:
yeaaah you can trip off mycelium i guess
it's weak and nasty
Probably, and worst of all, not really tasty lol
Never tried it, probably never will..
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blackout
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Try it and let us know. I will be knocking up some azure myc on wheat grain with the intention of eating the grains. I plan on mixing it with hot curry sauce to mask the taste.
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Been there done that! [Re: blackout]
#4594233 - 08/29/05 03:04 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I remember that around a half a quart got me a buzz once and the same fungus that was a fully colonized jar past point of shaking mixed into a fruit smoothie tasted potent and I ended up flipping out and coming down to my buddy talking me down as I stared at the wallace and grommet hours later. I wouldn't say it's weak I'd say it's unpredictable, and will agree with the flavor being subpar .
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: BossBoom]
#4594243 - 08/29/05 03:14 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wonder about continually shaking up the jar and letting it recolonise over and over again. No active should be lost, and the myc will just feed deeper and deeper into the grain each time. It may take ages meaning you are better off growing sclerotia.
I have seen studies showing dry azure myc to be almost as strong as dry cubensis fruits. I like the idea of azures since I will need no incubator as they colonise at the temp that my room is at, about 20C
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: blackout]
#4594251 - 08/29/05 03:23 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I used an inncubator once and said the hell with it, I don't find it necessary for cubes myself. I am happy the fruiting range is room temp too
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: BossBoom]
#4594369 - 08/29/05 07:15 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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It would be hard to figure out how much to dose like that. With a regular mushroom, you can grow it, dry it and weigh out your dose. You would probably have to eat alot because of the rye making up most of the weight of what you are eating. This is probably why people say it's "weak". I sure as hell wouldn't want to eat a couple of quarts of rye berries to trip. You'd probably get sick anyway and... 
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: FooMan]
#4594394 - 08/29/05 07:31 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've heard something... Try taking your cakes and putting them into some strong booze, it's a mixture called "blue juice." Once you let them soak for a while you just strain it out and that should be that.
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: Nignugnot]
#4594600 - 08/29/05 10:06 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tried it last night. Took four jars between three peeps. We all baselined (level 1 maybe a low 2). It was ok, but not really worth it.
And yes, it tasted like shroomy rye, not really what I would call delicious
I just blended the berries with some space orange juice (tang) in a blender, It wasn't too bad until I got to the bottom.
Actually, It might be worth doing again if we could each have three or four jars. Probably get a level 4-5, depending on the species and strain and nutes and whatnot.
We were drinking beer too and getting stoned so we may not have gotten an accurate feel of how much we tripped, but we all felt something.
As for alcohol soaking, that is a practice commonly used to extract nutes from herbs and the like. I imagine it would work for shrooms too. I use everclear for making herbal tinctures for energy, pain, sleep, head clearing (it'll take you from drunk as fuck, to stone sober in about ten seconds) cancer killing, body cleansing, and many other uses. I also understand that consuming booze while tripping will intensify your trip, but will also enhance the depression side effect. Using alcohol to extract chemicals and nutrients and then ingesting it, makes for a very speedy on-set of benefit. I make a peppermint tincture to show how well these work, you put some on the bottom of your foot, and within seconds you can taste it in your mouth. works with every plant I've used so far, I guess shrooms are next. In fact, since I don't have fruits yet, if anyone else wants to try this,here are some directions; you would powder the dried fruits, put in a jar and cover with alcohol (preferrably everclear or another clear potent booze) then simply set in the closet or other cool dry place for a month or so. In my experience, the longer a tincture sits, the more potent it becomes.
Thanks for your interest in this silly little experiment. Now I know, and I got to eat some psili that I grew myself. That's the coolest part as far as I'm concerned.
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How much dry grain was in each jar?
How long was it fully colonised for?
Was there much rhizo growth on it?
Did you strain the blended rye and juice? (or did you eat the entire lot)
I am not sure ethanol works well for extracting. I think metanol (undrinkable) works better
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: blackout]
#4594756 - 08/29/05 10:57 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silly kids....don't eat substrate. All that extracting work for a weak body buzz, if that. Substrate is for growing, not eating.
It's not worth doing....period. Anyone thinking of trying it...don't.
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: srgtm1a]
#4594806 - 08/29/05 11:15 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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srgtm1a, What kind of cake is that in your first pic??
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Re: Been there done that! [Re: VirgilKane]
#4595875 - 08/29/05 05:31 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow, what a waste? 4 cakes could put out 20 grams dry without much luck or skill. That'd be some good trips for those 3 people. Patience is the name of the game here. Psilo junky
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