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OfflineSketchyTX05
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10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions.
    #4582626 - 08/26/05 02:17 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I used a torch lighter.
I used a quarter of a bowl of 10x Salvia
I held in the hits for about 30 seconds.
I only got mild stoning effect with some slight trippiness mixed in?

I was expecting something more from Salvia. I would never quit here because of one dissapointing time, but I must say, my excitement for the use of Salvia has gone down after this. I can't figure out why all my friend and I got was just very mild perceptual changes. Things were very different, but we were still in complete control and we were so close to normal (even though we still had a big effect of that strange salvia feeling).

My friend ended up being very dissapointed and left soon thereafter. I did have one time where I felt very vividly that I was a teacher on a school bus. This happened, not the first round of smoking salvia, this was the second (About 20 minutes after the first times dissapointment). I took one hit and held it in. As I held it I noticed that each second it was hitting me harder and harder until I was a teacher on a school bus. I got up and claimed "So many kinds of kids!" but I felt it, I felt like I was being controlled by what I was seeing (Because my body moved in the same motions the teacher on the school busses did).

So, I had that, but it lasted all of 25 seconds... but it was amazing.


What went wrong in the first round? My friend smoked again but never did get past a mild effect.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: SketchyTX05]
    #4582805 - 08/26/05 03:01 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Salvia has a reverse tolerance, so your experience should become more intense after a few more tries until you finally break through.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: OisatsanaYert]
    #4583137 - 08/26/05 07:22 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

As per the previous response, you may have to make several attempts before breaking through fully.

Check out this website

http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #4583300 - 08/26/05 10:52 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, so the times that you have not broken through, you only get that mild effect?


Edit: We had an inexperienced sitter with us. I gave him some ground rules before hand, like not to mess with us or attempt to freak us out, making sure we were quiet, things like that. He ended up being one of the most irritating sitter.

"Hey dude, hahahaha, how are you feeling!"

"Your name is CASEY, you're on a drug!"

And, when you aren't feeling what you thought you would be, and you're in complete control, this dialogue really has the potential to annoy you. He wouldn't stop trying to talk to me. I was attempting to close my eyes, and I was being stared at and he was laughing because it was slightly out of the ordinary. (Until the bus incident when I thought I was a teacher).

Has anyone else had sitters that ended up being annoying and unnessesary?


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: SketchyTX05]
    #4583316 - 08/26/05 11:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You may have crappy extract or are not taking big enough hits. You didn't get your extract at a head shop did you?? Try making a gravity bong out of a two liter and a bucket of water. Make your self a tin foil bowl to go on top. Milk that sucker and hold it in. You will definately break through your first time doing that if you have good extract.

I broke through the my first time with good extract. I got some from a head shop once though and couldn't get it to do shit no matter what.


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Edited by QuantumMeltdown (08/26/05 11:02 AM)


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: SketchyTX05]
    #4583348 - 08/26/05 11:11 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You won't be fulfilled if you break through. You will only be more perplexed and amazed that Salvia can do what it does to you. Whatever that is. It is not about getting what you want from the drug.

That friend should never be around you when you are doing psychedelics ever again.

Quote:

when you aren't feeling what you thought you would be




You should drop this idea right now. You will only be absolutely terrified when you do break through and it is so paradoxical it is like feeding a contradicting program to a robot. This idea will cause you problems because no one even has an inkling what salvia space is.
Just get ready for the unexpected and try not to get scared when there is no you (p.s. its almost impossible.) :sun:

Know your substance. You will know what it feels like to lose it if you break through.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: mecreateme]
    #4583534 - 08/26/05 12:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I got the extract at a headshop.

And, I must say, I was looking forward TO that not knowing what it was, and being, perhaps, afraid. I was in complete control, and try as I might, I didn't learn anything from what happened yesterday.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: SketchyTX05]
    #4583766 - 08/26/05 01:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thats your problem. Head shops are shady at best. I would try ordering some 15x from one of or vendors like Iamshaman.com good luck. And when it works you will know you won't have to ask.


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Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4584064 - 08/26/05 03:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I did get some from a head shop once that was pretty damn good, althouh I did get the 17x to start with my first time.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: OisatsanaYert]
    #4584162 - 08/26/05 03:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

AvrilFourteenth said:
Salvia has a reverse tolerance, so your experience should become more intense after a few more tries until you finally break through.




Thats a fact


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: carl]
    #4584392 - 08/26/05 04:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Get some good stuff. Iamshaman.com has some 6x, and their mid grade leaves..both are plenty to get you to break through, just smoke less of the extract. They sell higher ones too, but those are plenty, if you have good stuff and do it right.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4585683 - 08/27/05 12:08 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have heard its more effective if you smoke out of a dry bong, because alot of it gets absorbed in the water. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: SketchyTX05]
    #4585972 - 08/27/05 01:31 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yeah it has a reverse tolerance. dont be dissapointed it will take a few times to break through. i tried salvia 4 times before i finally entered a realm where i completely forgot who i was.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: SketchyTX05]
    #4919009 - 11/10/05 07:31 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Has anyone else had sitters that ended up being annoying and unnessesary?




i haaaaaaaaaaaaaate those buzzkills


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: infirnosnake]
    #4919048 - 11/10/05 07:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I've only done Sally once, but went through a gram of 10x in the span of a night, I never 'broke through', but did manage to maintain a consistant level 3-4 buzz for almost two hours. Music sounded amazing, the body sensations were nice. I had a bit of 'time/fabric/space' melting going on - for a short while I thought I was my couch, or I thought my fan was telling me to answer my phone, etc.

Very neat substance, havnt had a chance to try it since then, but thinking of picking up some more soon.

While I was hoping for a break-through expierence, what I got ended up being extremely enjoyable.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: kaniz]
    #4919315 - 11/10/05 08:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Dont feel bad, I had some 10x from iamshaman and I couldnt break through at all, I smoked it around 10 times that night too. Oh and I cant stand being around other people while Im on salvia. I probably would have been pissed at your sitter.


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Re: 10x Salvia: I used it tonight, but now I have questions. [Re: 550c]
    #4919769 - 11/10/05 10:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I have heard people on here say stuff like don't mess with leaf but I'm here to tell ya, I have broke through many times on leaf. I orderd an ounce and had a ball. Now I tried chewing a quid of leaves and it was crap. Tasted like crap and didnt get off. I think I bundled 30 to 40 leaves.


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