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Offlinekinggopher2
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Lady Salvia Phenomenon
    #4577550 - 08/25/05 02:56 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, so I have read many posts about the Lady Salvia being somewhat of a reoccuring thing while using salvia. Last night I think I may have seen and felt her. I looked to the right because the blinds were fluttering in the wind behind me and I saw a dark greenish/blackish hand and part of an arm sticking through the blinds. It was definetely a woman's hand because it had long slender fingers and nails and it wasn't scary, i actually felt safe with it there, like she had my back no matter how scary everything else in the room was. Is this a confirmed sighting? Anyone else have anything to share or ask about this "phenomena"?


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: kinggopher2]
    #4577599 - 08/25/05 03:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

now that i think back on it, it's quite frightening. It was the exact opposite at the time. But if i saw that thing in reality. The thought gives me chills.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: kinggopher2]
    #4577754 - 08/25/05 04:25 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

others are always present with us, our personality works that way.
salvia brings more of the personality out at once.
the salvia lore of the "lady" is too much superstition.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4581311 - 08/25/05 09:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

salvia is a many shpongled thing


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: kinggopher2]
    #4581368 - 08/25/05 10:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i've never experienced that, but i find it fascinating how salvia has recurring themes in the trips from person to person. an example of this would be when you smoke it, sometimes you get a perfect understanding of (and seeing, without really seeing) whats in the rooms above and below you. i've mentioned this in a post before and a bunch of people said they knew exactly what i was talking about.

i'm sure it's the same kind of thing with what you're talking about, although i haven't been lucky enough to get that effect from it yet. it's usually way too uncomfortable for me to smoke more than once every couple of months. maybe i'll have a similar experience some day.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: nightkrawler]
    #5775409 - 06/21/06 05:27 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't met Lady S. yet but a thought crossed my mind that if people do meet her in the trips and hear her voice, how can they tell if she is he or she..
The human voices we hear everyday are easily recognized as male or female voices. The difference in the voice is caused by physical structures of male and female. If there are no physical structures or sexual differences at all in Salvia world to affect "a persons" voice, how can a person know if she is he or she.  :crazy:

This again makes me think of how a born to be deaf/blind person experiences trips. Can they explaing, maybe they don't even have capability of understanding voices or visions.

I also find the "recurring themes" fascinating. I have also experienced one of these themes in the form of a "DMT elf" in on of my very first mushroom trips. I had a closed eye visual of this elf's face. Actually I saw the same face second time later on a "bad trip"  (this time she/he was in a window on a brick wall and laughing down at me).


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: astraalialma]
    #5775437 - 06/21/06 06:12 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

wanting mamma
questioning if it be the right mamma

do you see this on the street as a baby is passed around?

it is very important to be able to empathise with babies who have only rudimentary language and all of the emotional complex, in order to understand ourselves when we are stripped of language and being passed around.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: astraalialma]
    #5775462 - 06/21/06 06:35 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You feel that Salvia is female and it's a very intense sensation. Mushrooms and Marijuana are also quite female. I almost always feel like in a womb, something that never happened on 5-MeO-DMT, LSD or mescaline-containing Cacti. All my "esoteric friends" agree.

Back to the topic: when I'm fully aware and sober I feel the presence of Friends (guardian spirits?) that I met on Salvia. Those where of mixed gender.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: Kras]
    #5775501 - 06/21/06 07:24 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like a reggae artist


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: Jon]
    #5775691 - 06/21/06 09:32 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

ive felt her yes..

but it wasnt too pleasant.. i felt the overwhelming force of a female personality in my mind, she wasnt doing anything or sayin anything, she was just there..

i didnt like that cause im more of the paranoid, authority-hating type of guy.. so the thought of there being someone in my head (but its not me) drove me nuts, i wanted her out and i wanted her out quick.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: Kras]
    #5775757 - 06/21/06 10:19 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

sorry but i would have to disagree with shrooms being omewhat female since it punches you in the face and knocks you out man think about it the colors and the stars....and lsd is also male on steroids and getting a hit from that puts you in another world lol...


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: mightyjoepipe]
    #5775878 - 06/21/06 11:30 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

but would you have seen her.. if you didnt know she existed?

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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: kinggopher2]
    #5776772 - 06/21/06 04:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

hippie_cune: that sounds awful. I wonder why? For me she was a mother... on some visions literally.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: Kras]
    #5776870 - 06/21/06 05:12 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i've done salvia over 50 times and never once felt this "lady" that everyone speaks of, never even felt a female prescence...


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: dubbyah]
    #5776992 - 06/21/06 05:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Your mind creates this "lady".


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: hippie_cune]
    #5777020 - 06/21/06 06:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I did salvia once. 5X standardised extract. Definite femenine presence in the room. No matter how i turned my view the feeling always seemed to be behind me and to the right. Interesting experience but i dont see much value in having that kind of state of mind.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: Sinbad]
    #5777701 - 06/21/06 09:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

power of suggestion


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5777847 - 06/21/06 09:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia comes to me as a masculine entity


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: Kras]
    #5777855 - 06/21/06 09:55 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with you as far as Salvia and Marijuana but, to me anyway, mushrooms seem like more of a male energy. Are you mainly saying that mushrooms are female based on the way you feel from them? As far as looks (and I don't mean to be vulgar) they look like the male part.


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Re: Lady Salvia Phenomenon [Re: truffleupagus]
    #5777881 - 06/21/06 10:00 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Spirits don't always have this male/female duality - more often we attribute it to them based on our own interpretations.


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