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Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! * 19
    #4576865 - 08/25/05 12:00 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Making the syringes.

1. Well first I fill up a half pint jar with filtered water.
2. Then I like to add 2 or three drops of jet dry to the water (keeps spores from clumping and sticking to the sides of the syringe) and fill the syringes.
3. I put the syringes into a quart jar and put them in the pc so the needle tip faces up. (if they don?t face up the water will shoot out when it boils.
4. I wrap 1 shot glass for each syringe in foil, put them in a quart jar and put them in the pc too.
5. I pc at 15psi for an hour.
6. When it?s all still hot as hell I load it all into a glove box that has had the living shit sprayed out of it with Lysol the night before. Spore prints to be used go in too.
7. This part is just a me thing but when it cools I unwrap and use one shot glass for each syringe. Flake off the print into the shot glass the amount of spores your going to use, shoot in the water from one of the syringes and suck it back up with the spores. The amount of spores used is up to you cause at this point I go overboard again.

I know there is a lot of steps in this and it?s a lot of overkill but it does leave little room for contams.

Prepping the grain and jars.

1. First thing I do is put one cup of rye in each jar.

2. Put in enough water for the soaking. I like to soak for 24 hrs. Notice the difference in the color of the water after 24 hrs. Bacteria spores have started to germinate. This is the reason we soak the grain. Many believe that this is where water is added but this is not true. We are germinating the bacteria endo spores because they can survive a PC if we don?t.

3. I pour out the water and fill and shake and pour that out. Put in a pot and the water is ready to simmer for 45 min. During the simmer is when the water is added to the grain

4. Simmer the grain and then rinse with water. I like to pour 6 gallons threw the grain. (no reason for 6 it?s just a me thing) The grain is ready to be put into jars and PCd.

5. Put 2 hole?s in the jar lids. One is a breather and one is for the syringe needle. Put a piece of tyvek over the top add the ring and some foil and your ready to PC. Be sure to leave room in the jars to shake the grain

6. Load the PC and pc for 1 hour at 15 psi. Here is a finished jar.

Now your ready for the next step.

Incubator set up.

1. First thing get your bottom tub and put in your heater. I also add a water pump to mix the water that way it heats up much more evenly but it isn?t a necessary item. I got the tape from a boat shop and it has been working for some time. Good stuff for underwater.

2. Next put something (I used tall half pints) in each corner of the tub. This will keep the heater and pump safe from being smashed if I put in to many jars or do something stupid.

3. Now be sure to set the heater before you put on the top tub. I attach the top tub with zip ties cause the top tub will want to float.

4. Add the water. I like to add as much water as I can before it starts to spill out.

5. If you use the heaters with the external controls set them now to get ready for the jars. Mine use a dial and a sensor that gives the temp inside the chamber rather then the water. It also has a metal bulb rather then a glass one.


6. Finished

Inoculation

1. First get your work area ready.

2. One of the reasons I like tyvek is cause you can write on it.

3. I like to heat the needle tip then cool it with a alcohol wipe.

4. Inoculate the grain. I like to use 2.5 cc per quart.

5. I like to cover the inoculation hole with a band-aid. I like em cause they come sterile.

6. Shake up the jars real good and put em in a 82 F ? 27.7C to 86F ? 30C incubator.

7. I like to shake the jars again when they are about 25% colonized then once more at about 50% to 75% done.

The waiting game.

1. This is the hard part, the waiting game. Here is a jar 3 ? days after being shot up.
Few days later

The first part of the waiting game is over time to get the casing mix together.

1. Well it?s been exactly 9 days and the jars are done. Time to get the casing supplies.
2. I like coco coir and verm mix. Be sure you get coir and not fiber. Coir is on the left and fiber is on the right. Coir in the package. Verm can be found all over the place and looks like this.
3. Add water to the coir as the directions say. Here is a brick. Here is one with 4 quarts of water added.
4. Prepare your verm. I just put it in a jar and fill it let it soak, drain then add to a pot.
5. Now mix (I used 2 parts coir to 1 part verm). Here it is when mixed.
6. Put the mix into jars (I just use the grain jars) and pc for 1 ? hrs at 15 psi. (Once again just something I do)


Making the casing.

1. I like to pc everything. I pc the casing layer, the casing containers, the foil that goes over the top, and the spoons and forks I use to do the work.
2. I like to do the work of putting the casing together in a walk in closest that I have. I spray the shit out of the air with oust and wait a few minutes then start the work. (With a face mask)
3. I pour a little (about a half inch) of the casing layer into the container.
4. Now scoop the myc out of your jar and put it in the container on top of the bottom casing layer that you put in. Once you have the amount of colonized substrate (these casings will be 1 quart each) that you want to use even it out so it?s nice and flat on top.
5. Now add the top casing layer. (In this case ? to ? inch of casing layer) A good rule of thumb is a top casing layer ? as thick as the substrate layer.
6. Now cover (I like to use foil) and put into the incubator. Usually this last 4 to 7 days. A finished casing should look a little like this (I suggest covering the sides of clear containers to prevent side pinning. These will be left uncovered for pictures used in this post)


Time to put the casings in the chamber.

1. When the myc starts to break the casing surface is when I like to put them in the chamber . Lots of people like to patch at this time. Myself I?ve never been one for patching so in the chamber they go.
2. I like to use the tent style chamber that uses the cool mist running all the time and a ultrasonic that comes on every few hours for so many minutes.
3. This is a Martha Stewart closet and hose set up.
This is a Martha Stewart closet and hose set up.

in the box


I use the ultrasonic and cool mist. Very firm believer in air exchange.

In the electrical Dept of the hardware store I find these. and on the ultrasonic Now on the back of the closet I cut the holes for the hose fittings and put tape over them and cut holes threw the tape for the fittings. The reason for the tape is to give the closet plastic a little extra strength when holding the hose weight. The outlet for the ultrasonic goes above the cool mist outlet that way the mist from the ultrasonic drops into the air stream of the cool mist and mixes better.

4. Now that the casings are in the chamber it?s time to wait for pinning.
5. If the coir starts to get a little lighter in color it may be starting to get dry. Now is a good time to mist them with some sterile water, it?s safe to mist up to the point of pinning.

Well it's been a week and pinning has started.

A few days later

Well some of the veils are starting to tear so it'a time to think about harvesting and taking prints

1. Harvesting is easy. Just be sure to remove the whole shroom and leave none behind to rot on the casing.
2. Cover the spots that show cause of the picked shrooms with casing material and spray it down real good with the water H202 mix.
3. If you dunk your casings now would be the time.

Now I suggest you take your own prints to use

Well this is how I like to do it. I like to get my foil ready like this That way when the print is done you have these flaps to fold over.

I then get a half pint jar (wide mouth) and prepare it like this. I ditch the disk and silicone in a tyvek disk. This will allow the cap to dry a little as sits in the jar. (Which causes more spores to drop and prevents the cap from rotting. Will also allow the prints to dry once the mushroom cap is removed.)

Next put in the foil and cover with the lid. Put some foil on top and pc for one hour at 15 psi.

Now uncover and wipe off and your little print chamber is ready.

Now take the jar to your mushroom chamber and loosen the top but don?t remove it.

I like to put a pin in each of the mushroom caps I?m going to print.

Cut the shroom just below the cap and put it on the foil in the jar as fast as you can. Easy to do since the jar lid is loose.

Put it in a glovebox or where you like to do your work.

In 24 hrs open up and take out the cap by the pin (now we know what the pin is for) and put the cap back on. Let it sit for 24 hrs again to let the spores dry.

Once dry fold up foil and store in a cool dry place

I hate to clean my print foil with alcohol.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #4576901 - 08/25/05 12:07 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm you sparked up a good one didnt you :stoned:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash] * 1
    #4576940 - 08/25/05 12:14 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

You sure do know how to contribute!!

Thank you Magash!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: OldSpice]
    #4576951 - 08/25/05 12:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Al haven't seen ya in a bit what's been up.

and does this answer the question


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #4577025 - 08/25/05 12:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Wow! I feel the love in this room! I have definitely archived this.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blackhart]
    #4577098 - 08/25/05 12:52 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Nice that you reposted this and brought it to the top. Always a good read :smile:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED* [Re: Magash] * 1
    #4577569 - 08/25/05 03:01 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: gotbeer]
    #4577604 - 08/25/05 03:11 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not magash but Ill give it a shot..

1) No he didnt. Theres no step for it, and he usually doesnt bother. It would have been a homemade syringe, black as hell from thick spores. 6-9 days is fully possible if you get the right water content with quarts of rye, from spores.

2) If you were to put a therm in, it would be from 190-210 about...simmering is kind of boiling, but just below, small bubbles, not a rolling boil or anything.

3) Anyway you like, just make sure you dont seal the jars, but their are open holes for moisture to go in and out. Personally, I just use the lid with no holes, and flip the lid so rubberside is up. That way the jar doesnt seal, but you dont need to mess with holes, foil, tyvek, or anything else on the jars of casing mix. Recently I started using PP bags to PC the casing mix too, just put a rubberband on tight, but loose enough for air to excape slowly.

4) He doesnt cover the sides with anything. You can just flip out the containers to get anything on the sides and bottom, if pins form..or you can cover the sides..personally these days I line the inside of the container with tin foil, then put the substrate in there..makes for a nice easy and excellent cover for the sides.

5) One cup, is enough seed for one jar. It expands to like 3 times its size, and you want to leave some room to shake. If you fill your jars up quite full, you might need to soak a few extra jars, to fill all the jars you want..but about a cup per should be good.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash] * 1
    #4577862 - 08/25/05 05:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Magash said:
Hey Al haven't seen ya in a bit what's been up.

and does this answer the question



Ive been just fine Maga, Got a lot of projects going on as usual
Damn nice bud as usual :stoned: :thumbup:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #4577899 - 08/25/05 07:19 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

3 questions for ya:

1) Were do I get the rye and what does it say on the package?

2) What type of syringes do you use since you can PC them?

3) I'm not too sure with the casing procedure that you've done. I've noticed you only used rye as your substrate. Is there any reason why you didn't add anything to the fully colonized rye like poo or anything else?

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: TheLightIsOn]
    #4577994 - 08/25/05 09:17 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

1. Rye Berries at health food store, or Winter/Fall/Summer Rye at Feed stores.

2. As far as I know all syringes can be pressure cooked

3. This is a Rye tek. Poo can also be used if you spawn the rye to the poo.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CLUTCH]
    #4578036 - 08/25/05 09:40 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I got some rye berries from a local nursery and followed this tech but I get mostly contam's after 7 or 8 days and very little if any growth in the jar. Innoced with b+ LC should have been a pretty good run. I checked everywhere on the large bag the rye was in but no mention of fungacides. Should I call the manufacturer to inquire about their grain treatment methods?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: swiftmonkeynuts]
    #4578052 - 08/25/05 09:48 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Were you using sterile techniques?

I would review the way you injected, stored, etc.

The pressure Cooker should get rid of anything that would be used in treatment. I doubt it was the Rye.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CLUTCH]
    #4578645 - 08/25/05 01:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Great Rye TEk Magash very thorough. What strain is that and is coco coir at most pet shops? also did u use Foxfarm products to grow that fantastic looking bud cus i like all their stuff especially their Ocean forest potting soil


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: mycomatt024]
    #4580543 - 08/25/05 06:36 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

What strain is that and is coco coir at most pet shops? Orissa and yeah it's at most pet stores and pretty much all hydro shops


also did u use Foxfarm products to grow that fantastic looking bud cus i like all their stuff especially their Ocean forest potting soil


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #4581333 - 08/25/05 09:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Some wicked purple in that nug......what is the blessed strain? Thanks for perfecty detailing the next stage in my grow........telepathy I tell ya!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: deva1]
    #4581519 - 08/25/05 10:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yea i luuuuuuvvvvvvvvvvvv magash's pics....awsome grow and.. wow!!..  that nug just chokes me up.. i mean i WISH that nug just choked me up...  aaaaahhhhhhh.....

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: ThumpaCap]
    #4581650 - 08/25/05 11:10 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Dude i knew a guy that had a peanut farm up near Waco Tx, Anyway he was a tall ass stork looking dude and his freezer was full of budd he had saved for like 15 yrs.
This shit was all purple and i got sick trying to smoke a very small joint, This dude was a country hick and he came over one night because his girlfriend had shot him with a .22 pistol :shocked:
I got my dad to fix his ass up {Hes a pharmacist and was a corpman in Korea} That was some crazy shit and it wasnt the first time that bitch had shot him either
In wish i could hook up with that dude again :stoned:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: deva1]
    #4582774 - 08/26/05 02:54 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

what is the blessed strain?..............I hear it's lifesaver


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #4582829 - 08/26/05 03:08 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

mmmmmmmmm...mmmmm...mmmm....mmmmmmmmmmm...mmmmmm.....  indeed it has the look of benevolence!.. and dang!.. you sure do have some cool avatars...  tis always a pleasure to peruse your posts.

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: ThumpaCap]
    #4583132 - 08/26/05 07:10 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tek. Ive been interested in doing rye. This inspired me to finally try this tonight. You da man. :thumbup:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: spaceman]
    #5666839 - 05/24/06 12:45 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I like to bump this once and a while when we have a influx of new people. someone may find it useful I guess.  :getstoned:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #5666848 - 05/24/06 12:48 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hell yeah, this is a good one, I recommended it many times,


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5666933 - 05/24/06 01:12 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

is this true about the rye that it needs to be simmered. i currently only use wbs and I dont simmer just throw it in a pot and let it soak. Sometimes get the water hot. I have used rye before without contams all I did was put one cup in the jar and 2/3 to 3/4 cup of water and PC. No soaking or anything and it worked just fine.
What I am asking is this just for rye and wbs does not need the simmer but rye does


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash] * 1
    #5667747 - 05/24/06 08:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Magash said:
Hey Al haven't seen ya in a bit what's been up.

and does this answer the question




OMG mmmmm mmmmm mm good. lol beats the dried out shitty commercial ive been smokin..

what strain Magash?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #5667899 - 05/24/06 10:50 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #5668995 - 05/24/06 04:41 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That strain was blockhead from Spice of Life Seeds.  :wink:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: JSshroom]
    #5668998 - 05/24/06 04:42 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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is this true about the rye that it needs to be simmered. i currently only use wbs and I dont simmer just throw it in a pot and let it soak. Sometimes get the water hot. I have used rye before without contams all I did was put on cup in the jar and some water and PC. No soaking or anything and it worked just fine.
What I am asking is this just for rye and wbs does not need the simmer




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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #5711531 - 06/04/06 04:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

this looks great i think I'm going to try this along side pf jars and casings in my fires grow. does rye also work on golden oysters very well? will oysters fruit in that casing as well?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MrMolotov]
    #6283577 - 11/14/06 09:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I joined the site after reading this killer tek and figured it was about time this thread be bumped  :thumbup:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: PsiloSaint]
    #6283587 - 11/14/06 09:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

As far as I'm concerned this is the best tek on the entire shroomery VIVA MAGASH :rockon:  :rockon: ,That is why this is the tek that you will end up reading if you fallow my Sig,I love this tek,best one I have ever used and I haven't looked back since,I may change thing up a bit but this got me where I am today  :dancing:  :dancing:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: PsiloSaint]
    #6283598 - 11/14/06 09:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

By the way, thank you, Blutjager, your sig did indeed lead me to this tek :smile:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #6283599 - 11/14/06 09:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So I'm having ZERO luck with rye but I don't want to give up on it yet. Tried innoc with 1-2cc, two different strains, tried innoc with marble sized piece of colonized pf cake, negative - the piece just sits there not growing out into the rye. No contams - all good there. Followed this tek to the letter, tried another tek without soaking. Inc @ 26-29C. Still nothing. Then it occurs to me..."I wonder if this rye has been treated with fungicide"

Grasping at straws here, seed came from feed supply store - not sure if it's been treated. But I'm getting a little frustrated.

I have 1L of B+ LC in the inc now so I'll keep trying.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: PsiloSaint]
    #6283620 - 11/14/06 09:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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By the way, thank you, Blutjager, your sig did indeed lead me to this tek :smile:




Your welcome,Thats why I put it there,To help people who are unsure where to look,I have had the most success with this tek and I hate to see people wasting their time when they could be doing something more ....FRUITFUL :hehehe: One you get good at this tek you will have more mushies than you can eat,Have fun


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6283638 - 11/14/06 09:26 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

O and check you Pm's Psilo saint,I sent you something  :thumbup:  :thumbup:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6283712 - 11/14/06 09:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Notgoodusername,
Feed store rye 'seed' often has fungicides, but is the wrong thing to use anyway. You want rye berries. It comes from a different plant. You can get your local health food store to order organic rye berries for you. I get 25 pound bags for $8, and that's in a large city. If you live in a smaller town, you can probably get it cheaper.
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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6283735 - 11/14/06 09:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i saw rye berries at a health food store i know of.

is there any danger of them being 'hulled' or does that only apply to millet?

im asking because these people seem like the type who will be like "what do u mean hulled?"

then i explain and they'll be like" well i dont know."


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6284017 - 11/14/06 11:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

RR,

That's the first I've heard that, here is what I'm using. I'm pretty sure in my case, rye 'seed' is the same as rye 'berries'. Nevertheless, I'm gonna ditch these and try another source. I can't figure out any other reason for the failure I'm having.







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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: notagoodusername]
    #6284099 - 11/14/06 11:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Good call bumping this TEK again...blut and I both linked it in a thread about using rye, and I am about to spawn to poo after using this tek to colonize my grain! All newbies should definitely check this one out and archive it...I know I did!!!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 81Renaissance]
    #6284253 - 11/15/06 12:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Anything that is treated with fungicides or any other chemical is clearly marked on the grain with a very disgusting looking red color. Trust me, YOU can tell if its treated grain. All Treated grain is required by federal law to have this coating to distinguish it from other grain.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #6284526 - 11/15/06 01:15 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

My federal is different than your federal, but it still could be, thanks for the tip.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: notagoodusername]
    #6284553 - 11/15/06 01:24 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think this thread should go in the FAQ there's not much about rye in the grain section and Magash did an amazing jobs with the pics and all. :smile:

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: notagoodusername]
    #6284656 - 11/15/06 02:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thats possible! But since Canada and US trade grain so freqently, I doubt it.

Can you explain your problem with rye? I'd like to help.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: cali_herewecome]
    #6284876 - 11/15/06 05:06 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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I think this thread should go in the FAQ there's not much about rye in the grain section and Magash did an amazing jobs with the pics and all. :smile:

Thank-you magash




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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #6285321 - 11/15/06 11:22 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

sent a pm, didn't want to clog up the thread.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: cali_herewecome]
    #6285368 - 11/15/06 11:34 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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I think this thread should go in the FAQ




This tek is already available in our Grow Guide section.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Wronguy]
    #6285422 - 11/15/06 11:46 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

My first successfull grow was from this tek!!
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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: twistedninja]
    #6286403 - 11/15/06 05:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ive always been confused about using rye cause i never know where to even find the right rye, and the normal rye ive tryed to cook it gets smelly when i put it to inoculation, i just always used brown rye flour with vermiculite.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: merge_oners]
    #6295717 - 11/18/06 01:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Magash--
  Sweet tek, great pics. Thank you so much. I once made a Martha Stewart closet myself but there was way too much duct tape... it got all soggy....  :wink:
  Anyway, a couple questions... why do you soak the measured rye grain inside of the jars, rather than measuring it all out and soaking in a large pot? Was that just for the sake of the tek? Also, you said your casings are as thick as the substrate, is this because it's a straight grain casing? I thought Stamets et al. say about 1:4, casing to substrate?
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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: NortherNathan]
    #6339589 - 12/06/06 07:46 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

hey...
i'm wondering if the rye berries vs. rye grains bit was cleared up? im planning to do this tek soon and i reckon it might be hard in oz to find the right stuff...

also, what roughly is the ratio of dry rye to casing, also i'm a bit unsure the depth of casing to substrate like the previous poster. i want to calculate how much rye i will need.

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: troublecomes]
    #6378267 - 12/17/06 01:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That nug u posted came from boulder colorado right?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: tristan]
    #6379092 - 12/17/06 01:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: troublecomes]
    #6379224 - 12/17/06 02:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I only use rye berries...you can buy a 50lb sack at your local farm supply or feed store under the names Fall rye or Winter rye for less than $20.

BTW since this thread has been bumped anyway...where is Magash lately?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: tristan]
    #6379333 - 12/17/06 03:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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That nug u posted came from boulder colorado right?




i highly doubt it unless magash lives there... magash is pretty well the cannabis king of the shroomery, at least in my opinion....


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Helltick]
    #6379621 - 12/17/06 04:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I only use rye berries...you can buy a 50lb sack at your local farm supply or feed store under the names Fall rye or Winter rye for less than $20.

BTW since this thread has been bumped anyway...where is Magash lately?




FYI, I'm not sure if this is just in my area or not (Outside Houston), but here "Winter Rye" is just rye grass seed that is spread in the winter, not the whole grain rye wanted.

I live out in the country and there are numerous feed stores around. Every one that I went to and asked for "winter rye" pointed me to a bag of rye grass seed. Sometimes the bag would even be labeled "Winter Rye", but it was still just the grass seed. When I would ask for any whole grain rye, they all just looked at me kind of strange and said, "Nope, this is the only rye we carry".

I never found any whole grain rye in feed stores around my area and the one health food store that carried rye was too expensive, so I use WBS.

Just a warning to anyone buying "Winter Rye" from a feed store, open the bag and make sure it's whole grain and not grass seed!

Check out this post by Anno for a great pic showing the difference between rye grain and grass seed.

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: stuff3232]
    #6379730 - 12/17/06 05:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Magash, what was your yield(dry) from that grow? How many tubs and jars did you have as well?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #6381060 - 12/17/06 10:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Man I love when this tek makes it back to the front page,This is what EVERYONE should start with


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6390259 - 12/20/06 03:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I noticed your 60/40 coco coir casing did not include any materials to buffer the pH.

Do you feel like this is an unnecessary step? Are there any advantages as far as yields to buffering the casing layer pH?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: phoenity]
    #6390275 - 12/20/06 03:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: phoenity]
    #6390285 - 12/20/06 03:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

As far a buffering many do it and I'm sure it doesn't hurt myself I just have never found a need when using coir esp if it's coir from a hydro shop it should come ph balanced already. Really the only time I found buffering to help is when using peat moss.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #6390357 - 12/20/06 03:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Do you get many flushes using the Coir/verm mix? On average how many do you think?

I ask this cause I am trying to avoid poo (I know thats a noob thing to say, but it smells =P) so I am looking for good alternatives.


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    #6390463 - 12/20/06 04:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you get many flushes using the Coir/verm mix? On average how many do you think?

I ask this cause I am trying to avoid poo (I know thats a noob thing to say, but it smells =P) so I am looking for good alternatives.



Horse manure doesnt smell like anything but dirt. Coir is good too though.


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    #6390592 - 12/20/06 04:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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KInda like



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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6390655 - 12/20/06 04:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I have heard that Coir is lacking in nutes so does that decrease overall flushs? Besides worm casting and adding coffee grinds, what are some other ways to up the nutes in coir?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Fingerfoods]
    #6390676 - 12/20/06 04:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

coir is very nutritious and has been used with great success as a bulk substrate, even without any additives or even ph balancing.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: odium33]
    #6390720 - 12/20/06 04:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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coir is very nutritious and has been used with great success as a bulk substrate, even without any additives or even ph balancing.




I agree 100% but still find myself throwing a handful of coffee grounds in it,couldn't hurt right ??


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    #6390784 - 12/20/06 05:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

There is a misnomer going on about coir nutritional value.
The C/N ratio of coir can run from about 70 to 1, to 200/1.
(dependent on source & production method)

Optimal compost C/N value for Cubensis is about:
carbon / nitrogen ratio <17:1, nitrogen 2.6%, phosphorus 0.2-05%, potassium 1.5-2.5%, calcium 1.5-2.5%, available boron <2 ppm, available ammonium <10 ppm, soluble salts 3.0-5 OdS/m.

You want to bump up the "N" value of coir.
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    #6390960 - 12/20/06 05:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Agar, but what are some of those organic "N" supplements other than what I already mentioned.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Fingerfoods]
    #6390982 - 12/20/06 06:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

never mind I just saw your post agar you dont have to answer that =P


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Fingerfoods]
    #6392758 - 12/21/06 02:39 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I spawned brf to coir. i mixed spent coffee grinds, a cup of liquid coffee, and some honey. colonized strong, just cased no pins. i did coffee cake tek. coffee with a TiT reduced colinization time by a full week.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #6412108 - 12/31/06 12:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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That nug u posted came from boulder colorado right?




i highly doubt it unless magash lives there... magash is pretty well the cannabis king of the shroomery, at least in my opinion....



i buy nugs like that every other day here, if u dont know bout the BIG boulder buds, u need to learn.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: tristan]
    #6412186 - 12/31/06 01:03 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Isn't there another forum for people to go and talk about other drugs


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #6662904 - 03/12/07 10:59 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Is this tek recommended for the newbie? I've tried PF, but to no avail. Any suggestions?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: guitarmonkus]
    #6662958 - 03/12/07 11:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

That is the one!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: guitarmonkus]
    #6663019 - 03/12/07 11:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Is this tek recommended for the newbie? I've tried PF, but to no avail. Any suggestions?




I did this tek for my first time, and along with a lot of reading here, it worked out perfect.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BlehMaestro]
    #6663130 - 03/13/07 12:07 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

same with me! amazing tek! and that magic card had be busting out laughing lol :thumbup:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: guitarmonkus]
    #6663196 - 03/13/07 12:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Is this tek recommended for the newbie?  I've tried PF, but to no avail.  Any suggestions?




I recommend it to anyone smart enough to read and follow my Sig.This is the tek everyone should do FIRST:rockon:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6663430 - 03/13/07 01:45 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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guitarmonkus said:
Is this tek recommended for the newbie?  I've tried PF, but to no avail.  Any suggestions?




I recommend it to anyone smart enough to read and follow my Sig.This is the tek everyone should do FIRST:rockon:




I think grains are suitable for newbs, as long as you got a head on your shoulders.  I followed the Rye-> syringe to print and it was easy for me.  A lot of people think that PC's are expensive, but if you can find one at a good will it's cheap.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BlehMaestro]
    #6663459 - 03/13/07 02:00 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hey thanks for the replies. I will begin this tek in a couple of days. Since I'm a bit of a novice at this hobby, are there any expected problems with this tek? Has anyone ran across situations using this one that they solved somehow?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: guitarmonkus]
    #6663491 - 03/13/07 02:20 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Hey thanks for the replies. I will begin this tek in a couple of days. Since I'm a bit of a novice at this hobby, are there any expected problems with this tek? Has anyone ran across situations using this one that they solved somehow?




I followed the steps exactly, except for the holes in the lids, and the auto-greenhouse, i have a ghetto tub, but I had NO problems. 0 contams. Great flush.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: guitarmonkus]
    #6663553 - 03/13/07 02:51 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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guitarmonkus said:
Hey thanks for the replies. I will begin this tek in a couple of days. Since I'm a bit of a novice at this hobby, are there any expected problems with this tek? Has anyone ran across situations using this one that they solved somehow?




It may just be my rye but I get allot less busted kernels with a 20 min simmer and not 45 min


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6663569 - 03/13/07 03:01 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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guitarmonkus said:
Hey thanks for the replies. I will begin this tek in a couple of days. Since I'm a bit of a novice at this hobby, are there any expected problems with this tek? Has anyone ran across situations using this one that they solved somehow?




It may just be my rye but I get allot less busted kernels with a 20 min simmer and not 45 min




I've found that a 1 hour "steep" fully hydrates the kernals with only opening less than 5% of them. As someone might have said in this thread, and definitely another today: make sure your rye looks dry on the outside before loading into jars. If you need to blow-dry them...go right ahead (thanks Agar).

Better to have them come out of the PC a little on the dry side, and have to knock up with more spore solution or LC than to risk bacterial bloom in the long-run.


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    #6707692 - 03/24/07 11:43 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

So I'm trying to follow this tek as closely as I can, and I'm having problems finding the hole I punched in the lid for the syringe needle. I placed Tyvek over the lid for a filter, but I'm just stabbing at it trying to find the hole when I try inoculation. Does anyone have suggestions?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: guitarmonkus]
    #6707720 - 03/24/07 11:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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So I'm trying to follow this tek as closely as I can, and I'm having problems finding the hole I punched in the lid for the syringe needle. I placed Tyvek over the lid for a filter, but I'm just stabbing at it trying to find the hole when I try inoculation. Does anyone have suggestions?




Mark your spot with a sharpe on the Tyvek over the hole before you secure the filter.

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I've found that a 1 hour "steep" fully hydrates the kernals with only opening less than 5% of them. As someone might have said in this thread, and definitely another today: make sure your rye looks dry on the outside before loading into jars. If you need to blow-dry them...go right ahead (thanks Agar).

Better to have them come out of the PC a little on the dry side, and have to knock up with more spore solution or LC than to risk bacterial bloom in the long-run.




Thats some good advice! The same as I was giving (useing wheat though) and it worked out wonderful. Steeping is much easier to control than a simmer- and you get the benifits of a simmer. No need to blow dry though just let them drain for a bit. They can drain in open air with no problems. Toss em like pasta in your strainer.

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.....trying to find the hole ....




Just had to quote that again.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #6738799 - 04/02/07 05:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

can u use vermiculite and BRF with this if so is the yield decreased?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: zero.kewl]
    #6738931 - 04/02/07 06:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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can u use vermiculite and BRF with this if so is the yield decreased?




Yes you can use it, and yes the yields may not be as good. The tek does not wait for the new substrate to fully colonize, he just cases the grains only. You may not have as good of luck doing that with BRF.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: zero.kewl]
    #6739812 - 04/02/07 09:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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can u use vermiculite and BRF with this if so is the yield decreased?




That completely defeats the point of using grain in the 1st place,brf is for people with out a PC,if you have a pressure cooker use grain and spawn to bulk substrate,you will be glad you did.If you don't have a pressure cooker GET ONE....or make ALLOT of cakes


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6739839 - 04/02/07 09:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

dont u still hav 2 make cakes if ur gonna use grain to spawn 2 bulk substrate? thats casing right? im not sure how all this grain and spawning and casing stuff works.... ive jus dun cakes id like 2 try spawning though....


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: johnnyboy]
    #6739940 - 04/02/07 09:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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dont u still hav 2 make cakes if ur gonna use grain to spawn 2 bulk substrate? thats casing right? im not sure how all this grain and spawning and casing stuff works.... ive jus dun cakes id like 2 try spawning though....




No,you can crumble cakes and use them as spawn to bulk but the idea is to use your colonized grain in place of the crumbled cakes,you inoculate the rye and wait for it to fully colonize,than break it up into your substrate(Poo,coir,etc...)wait for this to colonize and than apply your casing layer,read this tek beginning to end,its one of the most helpful things on this entire site

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6740033 - 04/02/07 10:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

so is it worth it to buy syringes or shud i wait to get sum mushies from my cakes and make prints? also i want to try grain is there any way i can contact ya if i have ne questions besides this forum. thanx


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: johnnyboy]
    #6740068 - 04/02/07 10:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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so is it worth it to buy syringes or shud i wait to get sum mushies from my cakes and make prints? also i want to try grain is there any way i can contact ya if i have ne questions besides this forum. thanx




This tek explains exactly how to make syringes. If you have some mushrooms that are about to finish up, then it would be a waste of money to buy syringes. Just be sterile while you make them, and everything will be A OK.

You can contact me via AIM at Bleh Maestro if you have questions. Just make sure you address yourself, and please, from now on take the time to spell out words correctly. If you don't know how to spell, I assume you don't know how to read, and if you don't know how to read you won't be too successful in this hobby.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BlehMaestro]
    #6740902 - 04/03/07 02:17 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I noticed u like Lifesaver Mag. Here's a few nugs; not the purp pheno but the grape/bluberry pheno. Super fruity meds. Super nice thread btw. be well

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BurntByTheSun13]
    #6741587 - 04/03/07 11:52 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

hey im growin that right now!! kick ass


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6741609 - 04/03/07 11:59 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

all respect intended here.. Ive been growing plants for along time... I'm sure shrooms are way different but how does the growing media have that much to do with end results???? i mean if I'm growing an ak/blueberry pheno and i use dwc hydroponic ill get a better result than with soil yes. but if its down to just rockwool and soil id think the nutes would be what makes um grow well.... as well with heat, light, humidity and your strain??? i should stfu i know hehehe

thanks


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: zero.kewl]
    #6741617 - 04/03/07 12:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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all respect intended here.. Ive been growing plants for along time... I'm sure shrooms are way different but how does the growing media have that much to do with end results???? i mean if I'm growing an ak/blueberry pheno and i use dwc hydroponic ill get a better result than with soil yes. but if its down to just rockwool and soil id think the nutes would be what makes um grow well.... as well with heat, light, humidity and your strain??? i should stfu i know hehehe

thanks




Mushies use nutes too, mostly nitrogen. However, you don't get to feed em anything but plain water during their life cycle, so you must choose substrate that has a balanced nutrition for the mushrooms. Rye is the best grain, and poo is the best bulk substrate.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BlehMaestro]
    #6741892 - 04/03/07 01:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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all respect intended here.. Ive been growing plants for along time... I'm sure shrooms are way different but how does the growing media have that much to do with end results???? i mean if I'm growing an ak/blueberry pheno and i use dwc hydroponic ill get a better result than with soil yes. but if its down to just rockwool and soil id think the nutes would be what makes um grow well.... as well with heat, light, humidity and your strain??? i should stfu i know hehehe

thanks




Mushies use nutes too, mostly nitrogen. However, you don't get to feed em anything but plain water during their life cycle, so you must choose substrate that has a balanced nutrition for the mushrooms. Rye is the best grain, and poo is the best bulk substrate.




Isn't optimized compost the best substrate?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: StroFun]
    #6818620 - 04/22/07 12:03 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

so there's no point trying this tek if you don't have a PC?

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nvm, got the answer. the jar will have to be boiled once a day for 30 minutes and this has to go on for three days.



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    #6818761 - 04/22/07 12:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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so there's no point trying this tek if you don't have a PC?

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nvm, got the answer. the jar will have to be boiled once a day for 30 minutes and this has to go on for three days.






Yeah, much easier to just buy a pressure cooker than to waste all that time on something that MIGHT work.


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so there's no point trying this tek if you don't have a PC?

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nvm, got the answer. the jar will have to be boiled once a day for 30 minutes and this has to go on for three days.






Yeah, much easier to just buy a pressure cooker than to waste all that time on something that MIGHT work.




assume for a minute that everyone isn't living in the U.S. and PC's are expensive and hard to find. if you are able to do that.


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    #6818976 - 04/22/07 02:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
so there's no point trying this tek if you don't have a PC?

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nvm, got the answer. the jar will have to be boiled once a day for 30 minutes and this has to go on for three days.






Yeah, much easier to just buy a pressure cooker than to waste all that time on something that MIGHT work.




assume for a minute that everyone isn't living in the U.S. and PC's are expensive and hard to find. if you are able to do that.




Maybe stick with PF cakes? You could do 3 sets of jars...instead of boiling the same jars 3 times.

Plus, PF cakes can produce some quality fruits, and can produce even more when casing them.

You will also get more reliable, more consistent results than by using fractional sterilization.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: RoachMan]
    #6820341 - 04/22/07 08:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

what is tyvek? in not sure what is is or where ta get it.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Fallooza]
    #6822999 - 04/23/07 02:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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what is tyvek? in not sure what is is or where ta get it.




What IS Tyvek? http://www.tyvek.com/whatistyvek.htm

They even make envelopes out of it. http://envelopes.tyvek.com/en/index2.shtml


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: RoachMan]
    #6823240 - 04/23/07 03:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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what is tyvek? in not sure what is is or where ta get it.




What IS Tyvek? http://www.tyvek.com/whatistyvek.htm

They even make envelopes out of it. http://envelopes.tyvek.com/en/index2.shtml



ya i guess i should have googled it before i asked.

so where can i get the perfect size tyvek disks? i see they make tape out of it too. i figure that it wouldnt let air transfer.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Fallooza]
    #6827442 - 04/24/07 02:36 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Just cut the envelopes down to size and screw them down under the lid band,you can do quite a few jars with a box of 50 envelopes,inoculate straight through it and cover your inoculation hole with alcohol soaked micopore tape,works every time:thumbup:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6827496 - 04/24/07 02:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

They don't have to be perfect circles.
Odd-shaped squares will screw down under the bands.

I think Blut' meant... "cut the tyvek"
We just find it interesting that they use the stuff for envelopes. :wink:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: RoachMan]
    #6828162 - 04/24/07 06:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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They don't have to be perfect circles.
Odd-shaped squares will screw down under the bands.

I think Blut' meant... "cut the tyvek"
We just find it interesting that they use the stuff for envelopes. :wink:




Yes thank you,thats exactly what I meant and yes I have never made an attempt to make them round,just cut into squares big enough that the lid band will screw down over them and your good to go:rockon:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #7599638 - 11/05/07 08:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

did everything, right saw growth for like first 4 days extremely slow, then it just stopped. are the jar lids suppose to be upside down, like with the rubber side facing up? dont see any contams though. btw its been like 9 days already....


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #8116681 - 03/07/08 06:14 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

i was wondering how you are keep your temps in the closet, setting room temp? using a fan? a small heater?

i like the idea of the tent style fc, but it seems difficult to control the temp/humid parameters.... maybe not, you tell me


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: eversuffer]
    #8116876 - 03/07/08 06:56 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

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i was wondering how you are keep your temps in the closet, setting room temp? using a fan? a small heater?

i like the idea of the tent style fc, but it seems difficult to control the temp/humid parameters.... maybe not, you tell me




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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #8168661 - 03/19/08 09:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

while i simmered the rye the berries had turned brown.

is that ok or will the mycelium not cultivate the rye now???

no time to search posts need fast answer

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: eversuffer]
    #8168670 - 03/19/08 09:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

huh?

did you burn the rye? why wouldn't the mycelium cultivate it? because its brown? do you have racist mycelium?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: itsallnines]
    #8168716 - 03/19/08 09:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

damn racist myc!!!

i dunno, just making sure before i innoc.

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: eversuffer]
    #8265785 - 04/10/08 08:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hi there, I'm following these instructions as closely as humanly possible for a first timer. I've been incubating my jars for 2.5 days and haven't seen any mycelium yet. My jars are sealed and the inoculation holes are covered with band aids. Should air be able to enter the jars for mycelium to form?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: littlediddy2001]
    #8265810 - 04/10/08 08:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wait for a week, then we will talk.

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Nibin]
    #8265883 - 04/10/08 09:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hahaha Thanks Nibin!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: littlediddy2001]
    #8265901 - 04/10/08 09:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, and in the air related question, yes, gas exchange is necessary but the amount of air that gets through the pores in the band aid will be enough. During colonization only small amounts of air need to be exchanged.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Nibin]
    #8370122 - 05/06/08 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, first try failed. Ended up with small amounts of green mold, and no mycelium. No biggie. I traced the problem back to sterilization. Gonna try again this weekend with a fresh strain of B+ hehe


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: littlediddy2001]
    #8370148 - 05/06/08 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

this is an oldie :laugh:


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8470056 - 06/01/08 07:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

b0red5tiff said:
Quote:

RoachMan said:

Yeah, much easier to just buy a pressure cooker than to waste all that time on something that MIGHT work.




assume for a minute that everyone isn't living in the U.S. and PC's are expensive and hard to find. if you are able to do that.




I got mine off ebay, shipped worldwide for $40 including shipping. (I happened to be inside the US so it was only $25 inc shipping)


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Sef]
    #8471099 - 06/01/08 03:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I hope no one still follows this misinformed garbage information


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Sef]
    #8471410 - 06/01/08 04:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn the rye..I cant get my jars to colonize..I did everything right..nearly 2 weeks and nothing. No contam..but no myc either.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: the_0wl]
    #8471424 - 06/01/08 05:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Damn the rye..I cant get my jars to colonize..I did everything right..nearly 2 weeks and nothing. No contam..but no myc either.




How did you prepare the rye? What type of rye is it? What temperature are you incubating/colonizing at? How are you providing gas exchange? Is the Aluminum Foil still on the jar?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8471495 - 06/01/08 05:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This tek has worked wonders for me.. I did tweak it just a lil.. I use different lids (two layers of tyvek, some polyfill and one big hole in the middle for inoculation and gas exchange) and spawn to a mix of verm, coir, chicken poo and gypsum. But the basic principle of this tek remains the same. Thank you Magash for opening my cultivation world to rye berries!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wasting_space]
    #8472308 - 06/01/08 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Heres a thread explaining my deal..with pics even.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8467819/an/0/page/0


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: the_0wl]
    #8472451 - 06/01/08 10:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I hope no one still follows this misinformed garbage information



What are you talking about? The tek or the PC comment? This tek works perfectly fine.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thedefone]
    #8472734 - 06/01/08 11:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the entire method


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8472837 - 06/02/08 12:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So far so good here...


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: littlediddy2001]
    #8472878 - 06/02/08 12:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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the entire method



Please don't start this nonsense again. Magash's rye tek works just fine. Is it still the case that you have never grown a mushroom? Have you ever tried the tek, or are you criticizing something you have no experience with? You caught a 30 day MushCult ban for instigating this kind of shit when you shouldn't have. I would prefer it if we didn't go down that road again.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: littlediddy2001]
    #8472893 - 06/02/08 12:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I remember reading this tek back in the day...


Magash is right in every aspect of the perpetration of the rye but as soon as he shows that Tit it's bombs away... Magash is cool but still, the tub has ruined a great many grows...incubate rye jars on a shelf, never incubate grains unless you know for a fact its at 72-78f, any higher has always caused major issues with wetspot.


Kinda weird seeing this prep coming up in the forums years later after having to figure out for myself why I lost so many grain jars using the tub in tub incubator method before switching over to room temperature shelves.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: HybridprX]
    #8472899 - 06/02/08 12:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree that the TiT is crap.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: littlediddy2001]
    #8472921 - 06/02/08 12:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

IMO one of the worst guides on this entire site.

1. Failure to properly rinse grains.
2. Popping a hole directly through the synthetic filter disk.
3. Sterilizing A Casing and Substrate without having anything in the casing to fight off contaminants.
4. Using coco coir as a casing which you can...but can easily overlay and contaminate easier then a casing with 50% Peat Moss, 50% Vermiculite.
5. Scooping grains out? Easily cut in half grains or damage leaving them exposed to Contaminants far greater then if you were just to break them with a bicycle tire.


(Now I know these sound like Well you're just following RR, no. It's called taking a mycological approach to things.)


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8472968 - 06/02/08 12:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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IMO one of the worst guides on this entire site.

1. Failure to properly rinse grains.




not necissary, I never rinse my grains regardless of what they are, including WBS, never had an issue

Quote:

2. Popping a hole directly through the synthetic filter disk.




doesnt matter, tape works wonders to cover a hole

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3. Sterilizing A Casing and Substrate without having anything in the casing to fight off contaminants.




debatable, I sterilize all my casings and substrates, clean procedures help fight off contams, substrates need to be sterile

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4. Using coco coir as a casing which you can...but can easily overlay and contaminate easier then a casing with 50% Peat Moss, 50% Vermiculite.




anything can contaminate or overlay, again procedure and techique, things like this are how people gain experience

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5. Scooping grains out? Easily cut in half grains or damage leaving them exposed to Contaminants far greater then if you were just to break them with a bicycle tire.




doesnt matter if you're using clean procedures, bike tires are a
poor choice for breaking up jars anyway, not enough sidewall tp
be effective without risking breaking the jar


[qute](Now I know these sound like Well you're just following RR, no. It's called taking a mycological approach to things.)




you mean 'scientific approach'?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8472977 - 06/02/08 12:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, :smile: Scientific Approach, too


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8472983 - 06/02/08 12:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Rinse, soak 24 hours, simmer, drain, load, pinch of gympsum...


No, TIT!

Fuck tub in tub incubators and whoever dreamed them up.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Sef]
    #8472995 - 06/02/08 12:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I got some of my stuff off ebay too!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: HybridprX]
    #8473004 - 06/02/08 12:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Rinse, soak 24 hours, simmer, drain, load, pinch of gympsum...


No, TIT!

Fuck tub in tub incubators and whoever dreamed them up.





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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: HybridprX]
    #8473022 - 06/02/08 01:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Rinse, soak 24 hours, simmer, drain, load, pinch of gympsum...




I never rinse, redundancy
I dont soak more than 3-4 hours if I simmer, cept popcorn, it's a bit more stubborn


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8473048 - 06/02/08 01:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone who uses 'Popcorn' as a spawning material deserves to be held down and slapped in the face with a sock filled with elephant seaman.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8473141 - 06/02/08 01:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Anyone who uses 'Popcorn' as a spawning material deserves to be held down and slapped in the face with a sock filled with elephant seaman.




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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dave77]
    #8473164 - 06/02/08 01:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well, i never rinse my grains (also) and have not had a problem.

i use coco coir as a substrate and a casing and haven't had a problem.

i don't add ANYTHING to the coir in order to avoid contaminates.

i scoop the grains out with a fork into the tub.

i've been getting four flushes. no contaminates.

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: itsallnines]
    #8473166 - 06/02/08 01:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Besides you sucking? no


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8473181 - 06/02/08 01:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hah! sucking, that is original. your insults still, um, suck. and your question is?

where is your grow, dmfk1600?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: itsallnines]
    #8473188 - 06/02/08 01:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In uranis and will never be posted on such a site such as shroomery, anyways.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: itsallnines]
    #8473191 - 06/02/08 01:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

see, here is the deal:

i just refuted every point of dmfk1600's post, from my practical experience. demonstrated yet again that s/h/it has none.

now, if anyone else has a question or wants pictures, please let me know. dmfk's posts will be ignored from now on.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: itsallnines]
    #8473904 - 06/02/08 07:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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. dmfk's posts will be ignored from now on.




I agree! Im pretty fed up with this egotistical brat's posts myself.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8474013 - 06/02/08 09:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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In uranis and will never be posted on such a site such as shroomery, anyways.




Are we back to this sort of behavior again? I sure hope not. We've discussed the consequences of this type of action before, so I hope this is not a repeat of what happened just over a month again.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8474066 - 06/02/08 09:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Anyone who uses 'Popcorn' as a spawning material deserves to be held down and slapped in the face with a sock filled with elephant seaman.




I've fruited from popcorn, spawned with it and even popped it for movie night

when did elephants start serving on naval ships?


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Wronguy]
    #8474067 - 06/02/08 09:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I only rinse prior to placing in the soak water, have you guys ever seen how filthy rye can be when bought in bulk?


When I said rinse, I only do it once at the very beginning of the prep, no need to rinse after the simmer, cools the rye off to much for the excess water to evaporate leaving it overly moist.

as Magash says, might just be a me thing though.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Wronguy]
    #8474072 - 06/02/08 09:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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In uranis and will never be posted on such a site such as shroomery, anyways.




Are we back to this sort of behavior again? I sure hope not. We've discussed the consequences of this type of action before, so I hope this is not a repeat of what happened just over a month again.




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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Wronguy] * 1
    #8474093 - 06/02/08 10:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wronguy said:
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dumbfounded1600 said:
In uranis and will never be posted on such a site such as shroomery, anyways.




Are we back to this sort of behavior again? I sure hope not. We've discussed the consequences of this type of action before, so I hope this is not a repeat of what happened just over a month again.




Exactly what part of Wronguy's gentle warning do you folks not understand?

This forum is for the discussion of mushroom cultivation, not each other. Shitcan the egos and STFU please. There's no rule that everybody has to agree. . .That's why it's a public forum.

My methods are somewhat different, but that certainly doesn't diminish what works. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and our art is constantly evolving. Be nice.
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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8474115 - 06/02/08 10:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well said RR. I think I speak for all the moderators when I say that this needless bickering and personal attacks will not be tolerated on any level. This seems to be a disturbing trend nowadays and will be dealt with harshly for repeat offenders.

Thank you for your cooperation.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: HybridprX]
    #8475346 - 06/02/08 05:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No, TIT!

Fuck tub in tub incubators and whoever dreamed them up.






Yes I agree,aside from that I still regard this as my personal favorite step by step beginning to end tek on this site,its concise,easy to understand and most importantly IT WORKS,its the 1st tek I had great success with,I have since changed many things about it to suit my cultivating style and don't exactly follow it all that closely anymore but it got me started in the right direction and I highly recommend it to any noob trying to get a handle on things without sitting there playing with flour like everyone else on here tries to tell them to do


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED* [Re: Magash]
    #8493901 - 06/06/08 08:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: ackack9000]
    #8493996 - 06/06/08 09:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, you can use a perlite FC for fruiting casing trays.  It helps to raise the cases off of the perlite, however, in order to let the perlite evaporate more moisture in to the air of the FC. If you are looking for cheap alternatives to that type of setup, then the Monotub is what you are looking for.

MonsterMitch's Tek. - There are dozens of other teks out there that the search engine will turn up if you look..  give it a whirl.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Magash]
    #8497041 - 06/07/08 08:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey Magash,

Awesome setup.  I've been using the PF Tek for years, and have had some up and down results.  I haven't ever had much of a contamination problem, but definitely mixed results on the flushes.  Saw this and I've decided to upgrade, but was wondering if you could provide some more detail on the materials and procedures for setting up the incubators and fruiting chamber.  I've been using the poor mans setup and am ready to upgrade, but I'm not overly familiar with what you're using, i.e. the vaporizer, heaters, size of tubs, etc.  If you already have details on the site, could you provide a link as I've been looking but haven't found it.

Thanks.


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: gfboomer]
    #8542663 - 06/20/08 12:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice Tek.  Respect!


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Re: Rye bitches RYE !!!!!!!!!!!! (moved) [Re: Magash]
    #8543278 - 06/20/08 04:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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