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Slowed growth... (pics)
    #4576347 - 08/24/05 10:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

So it's been three weeks to the day since I've inoculated my jar (first time) and at first, it looked fine. It still does look fine, however growth seems to have slowed down, and it's beginning to bother me. The jar should be fully covered in mycelium by now, but it seems like the past week it's slowly been growing. There's even one spot between inoculation points that has no mycelium at all. It's been without light and at a constant 75 - 80 degrees. I don't think it's contaminated, but is there something to do to make it go quicker, or am I just being impatient? I've considered water levels or maybe I inoculated it incorrectly? Cooked too much? Any ideas?







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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: David509]
    #4576355 - 08/24/05 10:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

mine always seem to grow slow at the end of colonization to just be patient it will grow


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: David509]
    #4576357 - 08/24/05 10:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

heat your incubation room up they say good temps are around 86F


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: David509]
    #4576359 - 08/24/05 10:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

it could be colonizing on the inside where you can't see or it could be forming stronger myc bonds. i'm just a newbie tho, i'm sure you'll get better informed answers.
patience is sooo very important. and positive thinking :wink:

edit: ^^^ the advice above is great, didn't think about that, but yeah, up those temps.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: mskip23]
    #4576361 - 08/24/05 10:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

what substrate is that


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: mskip23]
    #4576368 - 08/24/05 10:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

leave it at room temp contams thrive in higher temps


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: mskip23]
    #4576386 - 08/24/05 10:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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leave it at room temp contams thrive in higher temps




contams thrive at room temp as well, if the jars are contaminated he'd know by now
if not, in a few more days, mycelium also thrives at higher temps and will have
a better chance at 83-86F of competing with any contam that may develp at this
point, at room temps, it'll be overtaken for sure


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4576402 - 08/24/05 10:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm using vermiculite and Whole Wheat flour as the substrate. I don't own a pressure cooker, so I boiled them for an hour and a half in a pot. I don't know if that would make a difference. I'll definitely up the temps for it, and hopefully it's not contaminated. It just seems more like a very light gray instead of white, so I'm not sure...


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: David509]
    #4576417 - 08/24/05 10:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Try taking the foil off and flipping the jars upside down (assuming you have a layer of dry vermiculite), that can help speed up the end of colonization from what I've heard/read.


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: slipperyPete]
    #4576436 - 08/24/05 10:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I do have a layer of dry verm, but the foil is the only lid for it... Does anyone think that because I used whole wheat instead of brown rice flour, that would make a difference? Does the jar look ok?


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: David509]
    #4576480 - 08/24/05 10:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm using vermiculite and Whole Wheat flour as the substrate. I don't own a pressure cooker, so I boiled them for an hour and a half in a pot. I don't know if that would make a difference. I'll definitely up the temps for it, and hopefully it's not contaminated. It just seems more like a very light gray instead of white, so I'm not sure...




growth is too dense to be cobweb, the gray color is most likely from the wheat flour, just wait and see how things progress,


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4576564 - 08/24/05 10:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

for my very first grow i substitued RYE flour for brown rice flour... it took a REALLY long time to colonize...


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: buggers]
    #4576623 - 08/24/05 11:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

PF experimented for years before he settled on the one tek he thought to be the best, it's why we push it so hard


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4576650 - 08/24/05 11:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Well, as long as it's not contaminted and everything looks ok, besides it being a little slow, I have no problem waiting longer. Just worried that maybe it was contaminted or I cooked it too long or something.


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Re: Slowed growth... (pics) [Re: David509]
    #4578434 - 08/25/05 12:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

same thing happened to me... i had the innoc holes covered with wax paper. i removed it to allow gas exchange. within a day i noticed the growth rate increased.


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