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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: z@z.com]
#4575325 - 08/24/05 03:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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well whether or not he wants to "humor" a certain crowd, i think the public deserves to hear a statement under oath of what he knows, being the devout christian he is explains why he wont swear by it, im sorry but if i were truly innocent of something then why refuse to answer? lets say that youre a mayor, and in your town a group of people that dislike you decide to claim that theyve seen you hanging out with little boys on numerous occasions, now even if the police werent even bothering with this claim would you still not make a public announcement declaring that it is false? and if the people asked you to swear by it would you not? unless you were in fact a pedophile?
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Sycronica]
#4575371 - 08/24/05 03:30 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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A object travelling at a high rate of speed fits the definition of 'missile', as Rummy was using it.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: MagicalMystery]
#4575381 - 08/24/05 03:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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MagicalMystery said: A object travelling at a high rate of speed fits the definition of 'missile', as Rummy was using it.
So does Helen Thomas's spittle. Hell it doesn't even have to be going that fast.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: zappaisgod]
#4575509 - 08/24/05 04:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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So we're all agreed then. The Pentagon was in fact hit by a missile; a fucking airplane.
I think now we should focus on whether or not there was DU found at the crash site.
If so it could have come from the airplane, from the Pentagon itself (duh), or from Allah making depleted uranium magically appear just to fuck with us.
Or maybe some kind of X-Files shit was in the pentagon and when it got exploded weird shit happened. I hope the spacetime continuum around the pentagon isn't damaged. It could be letting in ghosts from the 99th dimension.
Also, Zombie Lincoln.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#4575808 - 08/24/05 05:35 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could be left over UWTB from Tim Leary's attempt to levitate it.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: usefulidiot]
#4575834 - 08/24/05 05:43 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/rumsfeld-warnings.htm
This is all bullshit. My best friend's dad was in the pentagon when the plane hit. The nose stopped a few feet from his office. He spent all day cleaning up the bodies of his collegues... and is now dying himself from what happened due to lung damage which has gotten progressively worse. The gov't turned their back on him, not giving him any disability either. Dozens of gov't employees decided to donate all their leave time they've accumulated over the past years to him just so he can retire early.
I don't think he'd lie and cover for a gov't that basically fucked him in the ass.
Not to mention I was living around DC at the time and my friends actually saw a plane flying low over dc, heading straight for the Pentagon.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: z@z.com]
#4576829 - 08/24/05 09:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sycronica said: Because if bushco was truely not involved then he wouldn't have had a problem testifying under oath. Since he refused means he has something to hide.
Perhaps he just had nothing to say and didn't feel he needed to humor all the "Bush knew" people. If I was in his position I would do the same thing.
Yeah it's only the largest attack every made on our country since the british burnt washington to the ground in the early 1800s and only thousands of people died. No big deal eh? Why bother humoring us little peons?
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Phred]
#4577777 - 08/25/05 02:36 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phred said:But forget all the subsidiary evidence. The DNA identification of the remains in and of itself is proof positive of where that hijacked flight ended up. There is no possible way to dismiss that.
Heh, I didn't realize the forensic people did their DNA anlyses on the spot.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Aldous]
#4577971 - 08/25/05 07:03 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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They don't do it on the spot. What's your point?
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Phred]
#4578412 - 08/25/05 10:25 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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You seem to imply that since the forensic pathologists identified all the passengers from the 757, it is proven that said 757 hit the Pentagon. Who says the bodies were brought in from the Pentagon? The identification just proves they were dead, period.
I'm not arguing about whether or not it was a missile or the official version is right or wrong. I just thought that particular piece of reasoning was very poor. To be honest, I simply don't understand the point.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Aldous]
#4578544 - 08/25/05 11:20 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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You seem to imply that since the forensic pathologists identified all the passengers from the 757, it is proven that said 757 hit the Pentagon. Who says the bodies were brought in from the Pentagon? The identification just proves they were dead, period.
Of course the remains were brought from the Pentagon, duh! What other scenario do you propose? Something like this?
-- The flight is hijacked, diverted to a secret airfield, where passengers, luggage, aircraft parts, personal effects, etc. are rapidly offloaded, then the crew and passengers are catapulted through a wall at a few hundred miles an hour to make their remains look realistically mangled.
-- the plane itself is then chopped up realistically enough to look like it was destroyed in a crash. All of this takes place in about twenty minutes.
-- a missile is then immediately fired at the Pentagon.
-- while no one is looking, fire trucks secretly loaded with all these pieces of aircraft debris (some of them weighing a few tons) and a hundred or so mangled passengers and crew, then raced to the Pentagon, where CIA operatives disguised as firefighters use invisibility beams to hide the stretchers they are using to carry bodyparts into the Pentagon for random distribution.
-- meanwhile, another crew of cleverly disguised CIA operatives use invisibility beams to conceal the forklifts carrying entire chunks of landing gear, huge chunks of jet engine, seats and overhead bins, etc. into the Pentagon.
-- then all the false firemen bug out and leave all this stuff for the real rescue workers to discover.
-- the real rescue workers remove the remains from the building and pass them over to the forensic identification team.
Yeah... that sure sounds like a plausible scenario to me.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Phred]
#4578561 - 08/25/05 11:27 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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invisibility beams
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Phred]
#4578940 - 08/25/05 12:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha. Poor attempt at disguising the basic flaw of your argument.
Logical statements are as follows: If A then B. In your case: IF a bunch of bodies were identified somewhere as being those of flight 77, THEN the plane flew into the Pentagon. I still fail to see the logic of that. Anything could have happened to those bodies before they reached the forensic center. How do YOU know they came from the Pentagon? Were you there?
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Aldous]
#4579492 - 08/25/05 01:41 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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What are you trying to say?
That somehow, the US government captured the flight, killed everyone on board, then dumped a bunch of different bodies into the Pentagon for rescue workers to haul out and send to the forensic labs? Then they snuck into the labs at night, swapped out the anonymous burnt arm or mangled thigh from which the lab workers were going to extract material on which to run DNA tests and substituted the real ones?
I leave it to the readers of the thread to decide for themselves just who has a flaw in his argument.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Phred]
#4579818 - 08/25/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phred said: What are you trying to say?
That somehow, the US government captured the flight, killed everyone on board, then dumped a bunch of different bodies into the Pentagon for rescue workers to haul out and send to the forensic labs? Then they snuck into the labs at night, swapped out the anonymous burnt arm or mangled thigh from which the lab workers were going to extract material on which to run DNA tests and substituted the real ones?
I leave it to the readers of the thread to decide for themselves just who has a flaw in his argument.
I'm only trying to say that your reasoning is not valid.
I don't especially believe anything that follows, I just think there's a remote possibility of these and many other scenarios.
Maybe the plane was simply shot down. Maybe the bodies were brought from whatever its crash site was to the lab. Maybe you don't know anyone who counted the bodies brought from the Pentagon to the lab (so there was no need for different bodies or a swap).
All these things are remotely possible. All I'm saying is: identification in and of itself does not equal flight 77 ending into the Pentagon.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Aldous]
#4579947 - 08/25/05 02:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: Aldous]
#4580236 - 08/25/05 03:32 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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My reasoning is not valid? Only if you can show that the corpses recovered from the Penatagon which were NOT identified as people who worked for the Pentagon were not the crew and passengers of the hijacked flight. If those corpses weren't from the Pentagon and weren't from the flight, where did they come from? Why were they wearing the same clothing their relatives recall seeing them wearing at the gate and carrying the same wallets and jewelry and watches as those passengers?
Do you think the government rounded up a bunch of street people and disguised them as passengers and crew, then somehow magically stuffed them into the Pentagon after the crash with no one noticing?
Hey... to people who think The Matrix is a documentary rather than a movie, I guess such byzantine machinations are par for the course.
Whatever floats your boat.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: BrAiN]
#4580388 - 08/25/05 03:57 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: Not to mention I was living around DC at the time and my friends actually saw a plane flying low over dc, heading straight for the Pentagon.
I don't agree that it was a missile, fitting the definition of a launched warhead packed with explosives, but I live near DC too and I couldn't tell where most of the planes I see are headed. His biggest clue would be the fact that it was going at 600mph, which is a bit faster than the average landing speed at Reagen.
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: MagicalMystery]
#4580713 - 08/25/05 05:44 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: High-Ranking Army Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon [Re: MagicalMystery]
#4581679 - 08/25/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: Not to mention I was living around DC at the time and my friends actually saw a plane flying low over dc, heading straight for the Pentagon.
I don't agree that it was a missile, fitting the definition of a launched warhead packed with explosives, but I live near DC too and I couldn't tell where most of the planes I see are headed. His biggest clue would be the fact that it was going at 600mph, which is a bit faster than the average landing speed at Reagen.
Well it wasn't your average landing that the terrorists were trying to pull off... when you've got a jet and your DIVING, trying to do as much damage as you can... i dunno.. i have the feeling you MIGHT be doing a little faster than the average landing... just a guess
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