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A second military officer backs able danger claims.
    #4570676 - 08/23/05 02:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Navy Captain Backs Able Danger Claims
Tuesday, August 23, 2005


http://www.foxnews.com/story/

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search) told FOX News in a statement Monday evening that the lead hijacker in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks was identified as someone with ties to known terrorists. Phillpott, a 22-year active duty serviceman, would not provide more detail, except to say that he is going through the proper channels at the Department of Defense.

"I will not discuss this outside of my chain of command. I have briefed the Department of the Army, the Special Operations Command and the office of (Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence) Dr. Cambone as well as the 9/11 Commission. My story has remained consistent. Atta was identified by Able Danger in January/February 2000," he wrote.

Phillpott is a decorated officer who briefed the Sept. 11 commission in July 2004 before its final report was issued. His statement appears to back up claims first brought forward by Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa., who has led the charge on this story.

Weldon's claims also seem to be backed up by a defense contractor who says he worked on Able Danger and for the first time has offered an explanation of how Atta's name surfaced in the investigation. J.D. Smith told FOX News that he coordinated the information sources, reported to the government on the project's spending and generated some of the charts, including the "Al Qaeda Global Map" that had Atta's name on it. He added that he saw Atta's photo during the unit's investigation.

Smith said one way the unit came to know Atta was through Omar Abdul Rahman (search), part of the first World Trade Center (search) bomb plot in 1993. Smith said Able Danger used data mining techniques ? publicly available information ? to look at mosques and religious ties and it was, in part, through the investigation of Rahman that Atta's name surfaced.

The Sept. 11 commission determined in its report that intelligence agencies did not learn of Atta until after the attacks happened. The claims by Phillpot and Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) contradict that. They say that Pentagon lawyers prevented the sharing of the information with the FBI because Atta was in the country legally.

In a statement to FOX News, Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said he is not certain the Pentagon can substantiate the claims made by the officers.

"There appear to be more memories than there is information to substantiate those memories. We're reviewing the matter carefully, but thus far have not found what it is these handful of individuals seem to remember," he said.

DiRita also suggested on Monday that Phillpott and others should have documentation to back up their claims. But two sources who worked on Able Danger told FOX News that it was a classified project and it would be illegal for them to retain documents for personal use.


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4570684 - 08/23/05 02:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

"The Sept. 11 commission determined in its report that intelligence agencies did not learn of Atta until after the attacks happened. "

so who is lying???

9/11 commission?

officers?

pentagon?


WTF!


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4570717 - 08/23/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

where is usefulidiot and the other conspiracy folks?

i think only Zappa has talked about this.

i guess if its not bashing bush or rove no one gives a shit.

BTW Democrats and republicans were on the 9/11 commission. what are they hiding?


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4570735 - 08/23/05 02:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Possibilities...
The government knew and didn't want to stop it for one reason or another.
The government knew and mishandled the information and does not want to be held accountable.
The Illuminati threatened to kill everyone involved if they didn't let the terrorists succeed.
Our intelligence community was busy jacking off to internet porn to care.


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4570932 - 08/23/05 03:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

"the lead hijacker in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks was identified as someone with ties to known terrorists."

I think he's referring to Mossad and the CIA.


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: daimyo]
    #4571852 - 08/23/05 07:48 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

daimyo said:
Possibilities...
The government knew and didn't want to stop it for one reason or another.
The government knew and mishandled the information and does not want to be held accountable.
The Illuminati threatened to kill everyone involved if they didn't let the terrorists succeed.
Our intelligence community was busy jacking off to internet porn to care.




Perhaps I can help summarize this for you. An agency of the government involved in international intelligence gained some information that there was a dangerous agent(s) at loose in our country. Identified at least one, Atta, by name. These people were intelligence officers for the armed forces. Their findings were presented to lawyers at the Pentagon who informed them that they could not tell anyone with the legal authority to act domesticly. They were forbidden from telling the FBI about these guys. Why? you ask. Because a Deputy Attorney General (#2 to Janet Reno) of the Clinton justice department had crafted a policy that prevented any communication between domestic and foreign intelligence agencies, above and beyond what was called for by law. But these were Pentagon lawyers, you say. Yes, but the position this person held before her promotion was Chief Counsel at the Pentagon. Her position paper, known famously as "The Wall" (not to be confused...) was written very shortly after her promotion. The lawyers at the Pentagon knew damn well what their boss's position was. Justice Mary Jo White, in charge of the investigation after the first trade center attacks, wrote not one but two blistering memos decrying the fetters on investigating terrorism this caused. They were ignored. Buildings fell. Thousands were murdered.

Now, here's the good part. A commission was set up to investigate what failures led to allowing this disaster to occur. It was to be a bipartisan commission made up of Democrats and Republicans. This commission received information from members of the Pentagon group that generated the intelligence on Atta and pals that they had in fact identified him but were precluded from sharing. Let me say this again. They told people on the commission that they had identified a major planner and actor but were forbidden from sharing. They told the commission. None of this was included in the commission report. Not one mention. Nothing. Why? you ask. Well, one might look into the fact that a high ranking member of that commission, one privy to all of the documents and information, was none other than the author of the infamous "Wall", Jamie Gorelick, Bill Clinton's Deputy Attorney General. What the fuck was this cunt doing on a committee she should have been in front of? No wonder Bush thought they would be horseshit. He was right.

For added fun, let's ponder what notes there were on the documents Sandy Burglar removed, stuffed in his socks and underwear, and destroyed just before he testified before this sidesho.... er I mean commission? What was Ole Sandy's job title in the Clinton administration, you ask? Why, none other than National Security Advisor.

Hunter Thompson said that the Clinton's would make us wish we had Nixon back. Hope you enjoyed my little synopsis and found it informative.


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4571901 - 08/23/05 08:00 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Zippaisafag likes Nixon, what a shock!


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: LSDempire]
    #4571918 - 08/23/05 08:05 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

LSDempire said:
Zippaisafag likes Nixon, what a shock!




Tsk tsk tsk.

That's from Hunter Thompson, "Better Than Sex." I think I read it in '95. Nixon was actually a fairly effective president. Except for his coverup. Slick Willy, on the other hand, was Chauncey Gardner.


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4572137 - 08/23/05 09:08 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I have been reading up a little on Able Danger. Some controversy exists about the 9/11 ommissions official "Atta Timeline", which they used to dispute intellignece by the Czechs that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence before the 9/11 attacks. Apparently Able Danger conflicts with the official "Atta Timeline", and throws the conclusions that it made back into play.

It is quite possible that Iraq was directly involved in 9/11.


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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4572191 - 08/23/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I found your synopsis interesting.

what gets me mad is not Gorelick/clinton/reno/sandy crap and all the laws they broke....

but bush and the republicans on the commission who helped whitewash this.

IMO the Dem's/Rep's fight and hate each other. but when Washington looks really bad they cover for each other.

they all fucking suck!


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: A second military officer backs able danger claims. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4572361 - 08/23/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Bush had nothing to do with this, except to resist it. Tom Kean is a retired Republican I Name Only ex governor of NJ. Don't even bother. Bush didn't want this because he knew it would be a bipartisan CYA exercise. Looks pretty smart about that don't he?

I want to see Sandy Berger in leg irons. And Jamie Gorelick hung for depraved indifference. And then we can prosecute her for the conspiracy to impede a federal investigation


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