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Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars?
    #4570456 - 08/23/05 01:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I now understand why poo should not be sterilized. However, I have a 23 quart pressure cooker and 2-33 quart regular canners. I know I don't want the temps hot enough and the time long enough for sterilization so what should I do with the pressure cooker and/or canners to pasteurize the manure? Should I put the jars in the canners along with a temp gauge and keep it at like 170 degrees for an hour instead of pressure cooking them at 15 psi for an hour? Thanks.


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: llopez00]
    #4570582 - 08/23/05 01:45 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

That would work, with no lid..but bags would hold more at a time then jars.


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: llopez00]
    #4570625 - 08/23/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

This sounds like a good experiment, but I'm wondering how you're going to get a temp gauge inside of the PC and still be able to read it.


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: FooMan]
    #4570643 - 08/23/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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This sounds like a good experiment, but I'm wondering how you're going to get a temp gauge inside of the PC and still be able to read it.




You dont use it as a PC..you dont put the lid on..you dont even want the water to boil, let alone pressurize. Remove the lid, and you have a big pot though.

Youd have to add water all the way up the jars, and you couldnt stack them..which is why bags are so much better.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: ]
    #4570645 - 08/23/05 02:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Use a lid with holes in it. That way you can drain out any excess with ease.




A lid with holes on the PC? I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I am saying that if you have the lid on your PC (pressure cooker), that you wouldn't be able to see the temperature gauge inside of it.


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4570655 - 08/23/05 02:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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FooManShroom said:
This sounds like a good experiment, but I'm wondering how you're going to get a temp gauge inside of the PC and still be able to read it.




You dont use it as a PC..you dont put the lid on..you dont even want the water to boil, let alone pressurize. Remove the lid, and you have a big pot though.

Youd have to add water all the way up the jars, and you couldnt stack them..which is why bags are so much better.




That's what I would do and have done myself in the past with pillowcases and bags. I thought that llopez was referring to using the PC with the lid on at low temps because of the fact he said PC/canner and not just a large pot. Maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to get at. :smirk:


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: FooMan]
    #4570679 - 08/23/05 02:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Well he never mentioned putting a lid on, just put the jars in with a temp probe. With no lid, thats all a PC is, is a big pot.

If however the poster meant what your talking about, no that cant be done of course, with the lid on, water will quickly boil and get far to hot..wouldnt matter what the temp guage was saying inside if you could read it..


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4570788 - 08/23/05 02:48 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The canners are just large pots (33 quart) with lids for them. The reason I want to use the quart jars is because I have a shit load of them (72)and I don't have any bags or any pillow cases that I could use unless I want to really make my buddies mad. :smile: I was thinking about buying meat thermometers and placing them inside the canners with the lids off of the canners. Sorry for this stupid question but how can I keep the temps at around 170 F with the lids off and water in the pots? Doesn't water boil at 100 F? I guess I can just keep adding water though, huh? Sorry if that was stupid but I've had a lot of beer/weed since grade school, lol.


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: llopez00]
    #4570953 - 08/23/05 03:17 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Water boils at 212F - 100C.


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: FooMan]
    #4570992 - 08/23/05 03:29 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You can keep the temps at 170 for 1-3 hours, its below simmering, steaming lots..no lid is needed. Put a probe in the center jar and go by that for 165-170..put something under the jars too, so the bottoms dont get to hot.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: ]
    #4571156 - 08/23/05 04:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, I guess I got the F and the C mixed up after the 100. So 170 for 1 to 3 hours? Thats quite a bit of a gap so would 1 or 1.5 hours work at 170 F? Another reason I'm wanting to use the jars is for greater sterility. I just think that closed jars with pasteurized poo in them would be more contam resistant than a pillow case sitting out in the open.


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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: ]
    #4571284 - 08/23/05 05:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

you really should keep the lids loose to allow some exchange of gas, otherwise the pressure does build, even in bags. bags blow up like a balloon when pasturized while sealed.
a small hole in the top with polyfil, tyvek, or a filter disk as a contam barrier and you would be golden. oh you would have to cover them with tinfoil so you don't get water in through the top. the water level should be at least level with the substrate in the jars to ensure an even pasturization.
bags would be way easier imo, need some pm me.
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Re: Pasteurizing Poo in Quart Jars? [Re: backupwards]
    #4571774 - 08/23/05 07:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Cool, I guess I could just poke holes in the lids. Would leaving the lids on loosely (not real loose) while steaming and then tightening them after they cool down be a good alternative to poking holes in them? If not then I guess I could just cover the holes with tape and put tin foil over them for sterility purposes.


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