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Offlineph30n1x
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whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking??
    #4568807 - 08/23/05 12:46 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i had a bad trip once before on half an 8th of cubies because of the nervous and scared and deep thought aspect of the trip, and i was wondering what would be the best amount to get minimal deep thinking and more visual entertainment, if its possible. thanks much!


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #4569239 - 08/23/05 02:26 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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and i was wondering what would be the best amount to get minimal deep thinking and more visual entertainment, if its possible. thanks much!




half an 8th  :shrug:


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: it stars saddam]
    #4569300 - 08/23/05 03:00 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It depends...you never know how potent they're gonna be.  I've always taken an 8th as a base.  4 times gave me a mild trip, and one time I did it I skyrocketed to level 5.  If you already did them and got panicked, you pretty much know what to expect.  Use that knowledge to keep yourself under better state of mind and take it from there.  Remember...you will ALWAYS come back :wink:


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #4569391 - 08/23/05 04:44 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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... minimal deep thinking ...






Not to be dick, but deep thinking is part of the shroom experience :smile:


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #4569439 - 08/23/05 05:51 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

If you take 0.25gr of good mushrooms you will get a trip thats fully in control. It's "Minimal Dosage". I use it every once in a while.

And guess what: the mind effects are far stronger than the visual effects.

The mind effects are *dominant* in psychedelics, kid. its the visuals that are a side effect. A magnificent, awe-inspiring side effect, but a side effect nontheless.

The trip is psychological, take it or leave it.


Oh and don't worry: getting a bad trip on 1/2 an eighth is perfectly normal. Many people here have used so often or such big doses (or their shrooms are so weak) that 1/16 doesnt impress them anymore. Well: it should. 1/16 of good shrooms is all I would take and I've taken 6gr and even 12gr before.


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: Asante]
    #4569716 - 08/23/05 09:48 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly what Wiccan Seeker said, the "deep thinking" aspect is the dominant part of the trip. If youre looking for strictly visuals (shame on you) then stay the hell away from shrooms.
But if i had to recommend a dose, i would base it on the fact that there is a certain point during certain doses when the visuals become absolutely meaningless because the head-trip is so strong.
Unfortunately, that dose will vary from person to person and from shroom to shroom, so it can't be accurately predicted.
just keep it low.


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #4569980 - 08/23/05 11:17 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

u got a bad trip on that low of a dose? with mushrooms the visuals go hand in hand with the deep thinking. sacrifice one and u sacrifice the other. just eat a quad and chill for a while


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #4569990 - 08/23/05 11:21 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
The mind effects are *dominant* in psychedelics, kid. its the visuals that are a side effect. A magnificent, awe-inspiring side effect, but a side effect nontheless.

The trip is psychological, take it or leave it.





That's totally right. Psychedelics aren't there just for the fireworks. There is little that can be gained from just watching "pretty visuals." Without the mental effects, psychedelics would have pretty much no benefit on consciousness.


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: Jabbawaya]
    #4570048 - 08/23/05 11:40 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I sure havnt found a dose thats mild on deep thinking, with any sort of crazy visuals..you want visuals, you dose high...but expect your mind to take alot of shit too.


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4570082 - 08/23/05 11:53 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

17.5 fresh grams of Colombian and some decent weed did the trick for me. Pure visuals and almost no thinking (well, there was a lot of thinking, but it was all about how awesome and incredible the visuals were).


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: TurricaN]
    #4570411 - 08/23/05 01:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

thanks much for all the advise. the only reason i wanted minimal deep thinking is cause i was scared the trip would turn bad because of it, but im sure i would deeply enjoy the intence thinking aspect of shrooms if i could just control my thoughts from being really scary and what not. thanks again


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #4570462 - 08/23/05 01:17 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Thats the thing you cant try to control things, you just have to go with the flow of the mushrooms. If you try to fight things, I can defintely seeing a bad trip manifesting. Be safe, have fun and just go with the cosmic flow  :mushroom2: :heart: :grin:


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: Kerr]
    #4570484 - 08/23/05 01:22 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

^^^


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: day_tripper]
    #4570496 - 08/23/05 01:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The scary thoughts are one of the reasons I keep doing psychedelics......overcome the fear...........fear is the mindkiller.......


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4570540 - 08/23/05 01:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I think you shouldn't use mushrooms if you're into it just for visuals.


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: marwin]
    #4570749 - 08/23/05 02:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I think a lot of people are initially drawn to psychedelics because there are supposedly "hallucinations", when in fact you never really see anything that wasn't already there, just a drastically different view of it. Now, datura, on the other hand......


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4571014 - 08/23/05 03:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I've seen a lot of things that weren't really there on mushrooms.


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: TurricaN]
    #4571026 - 08/23/05 03:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I would have to agree with ya TurricaN


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: Kerr]
    #4571055 - 08/23/05 03:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Want some hallucinations?

Eat 1.8 grams and suck some nitrous while listening to some insane music like Mindless Self Indulgence.


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Re: whats the best dose for just visuals and minimal deep thinking?? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #4571142 - 08/23/05 04:08 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

visuals are part of the package, bro. the higher the dose the better the visuals but the more "thinking" comes along for the ride.


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