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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Alan Watts.
    #4567411 - 08/22/05 07:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I've been listening to Alan Watts lectures and reading his books for a while now and I decided to ask how the members here felt about him.

How do you feel about his work?


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4567477 - 08/22/05 08:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Good.


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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: Icelander]
    #4567482 - 08/22/05 08:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I was just thinking someone was going to say "He's good."

Thanks a ton.


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4567500 - 08/22/05 08:20 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Well, that was only an ounce, but you're welcome.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: Icelander]
    #4567512 - 08/22/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just that generous.


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4567539 - 08/22/05 08:29 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Then I'm giving you five  :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: Icelander]
    #4567581 - 08/22/05 08:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

This thread turned out to be better than I thought it would.


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4567587 - 08/22/05 08:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It's good your expectations aren't high.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: Icelander]
    #4567632 - 08/22/05 08:48 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I almost have no sense of anticipation, it's pretty weird.

Thank you Alan Watts.


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4567739 - 08/22/05 09:10 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i liked his stuff in 1970


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4567770 - 08/22/05 09:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

He's good. In other time, he would of been a prophet or messiah. Very penetrating insight.

I guess he had some problems with alcohol later in life, though. Seems to be common among zen buddhists?!? I don't know how this information relates to evaluating him, just putting it out there.v


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: tomk]
    #4567778 - 08/22/05 09:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I think he had a major cigarette habit as well. He was human. Not god not messiah. Just a good man who wasn't afraid to search.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: tomk]
    #4567784 - 08/22/05 09:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

tomk said:
I guess he had some problems with alcohol later in life, though. Seems to be common among zen buddhists?!?




I've heard people bashing Alan Watts before by bringing up his alcohol addiction. What Im wondering is how that has any relevance to his spiritual teachings?


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: tomk]
    #4567786 - 08/22/05 09:22 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Who is Alan Watts? he didn't have anything to do with electricity did he?


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: psychomime]
    #4567836 - 08/22/05 09:31 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

:idea: He had good ideas. Especially about psychedelics.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: it stars saddam]
    #4567855 - 08/22/05 09:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

itstarssaddam said:
Quote:

tomk said:
I guess he had some problems with alcohol later in life, though. Seems to be common among zen buddhists?!?




I've heard people bashing Alan Watts before by bringing up his alcohol addiction. What Im wondering is how that has any relevance to his spiritual teachings?




I personally don't begrudge the man his alcohol addiction. However, I think that people getting into Alan Watts should know he had that problem. The same way people studying Krishnamurti should know he had a really long affair with his friends wife that broke up his inner circle.

In both cases, the problem is relevant to the teaching, because it lets us see where the teacher may be projecting the advice he needs for himself onto his audience. Krishnamurti talking about controlling your sexual response so as not to hurt people, for example, needs to be seen in the light of him being a person struggling with just that.

ETA: Saying I am bashing Alan Watts by non-commentially mentioning his alcohol addiction reveals more about what your sensitivities then it does about what I said.


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Edited by tomk (08/22/05 09:44 PM)


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: Icelander]
    #4567860 - 08/22/05 09:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
:idea: He had ideas that agree with my biases. Especially about psychedelics.




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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: tomk]
    #4567876 - 08/22/05 09:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

So... That's true of every single thing everyone thinks about anything, including you.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: Icelander]
    #4567904 - 08/22/05 09:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry.  That was bad.  Not for your reason, but because I don't know what you were like before you confronted philosophy like Alan Watts.  Maybe he didn't confirm your biases if confronting his thoughts changed some of your ideas.  I apologize man.

Sometimes these threads are frusterating when it's like:

Alan Watts. 
Yeah Alan Watts is good.
Der I like Alan Watts cause he likes drugs.
Uh huyuck Alan watts is great.

or

Bill Hicks
Der I like Bill Hicks
Bill hicks is funny.
Hicks makes jokes about drugs so he's funny.  Der.

I mean, asking the shroomery what it thinks of Alan Watts is kind of like asking a baptist church what they think about john the baptist.  :shrug:


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Re: Alan Watts. [Re: tomk]
    #4567930 - 08/22/05 09:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

tomk said:
Quote:

itstarssaddam said:
Quote:

tomk said:
I guess he had some problems with alcohol later in life, though. Seems to be common among zen buddhists?!?




I've heard people bashing Alan Watts before by bringing up his alcohol addiction. What Im wondering is how that has any relevance to his spiritual teachings?





Quote:

ETA: Saying I am bashing Alan Watts by non-commentially mentioning his alcohol addiction reveals more about what your sensitivities then it does about what I said.




I wasn't referring to your post when I said that.


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