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OfflineShroomKillabrew
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Rat killed from shrooms?
    #4562023 - 08/21/05 11:12 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

My brother's friend said that he went to the pet store, bought a rat, and gave it shrooms that he had grown. He said he checked on it 2 hours later and it was dead. Is this possible?


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: ShroomKillabrew]
    #4562025 - 08/21/05 11:13 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Oh and also I forgot to say he gave it 0.1 grams.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: ShroomKillabrew]
    #4562032 - 08/21/05 11:19 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The LD50 for psilocybin in rats is 280mg/kg (LD50 means the dosage it takes to kill 50% of the subjects, obviously done on rats and such).

So...280mg is .28g if Im not mistaken. Assuming the scale could possibly be inaccurate to the point of the dose he gave the rat being 150mg, this would mean that a .5kg rat or less probably would've had a good chance of dying from that dose, yes.

Someone correct my math if I'm wrong please.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: Ramuh]
    #4562041 - 08/21/05 11:27 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

What is the LD50 for psilocybin in humans?


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: ShroomKillabrew]
    #4562061 - 08/21/05 11:39 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Never mind the LD50 for humans is 1680 grams of dried mushrooms. That's 3.69 pounds of dried shrooms. It would be impossible for a human to die from shrooms.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: ShroomKillabrew]
    #4562099 - 08/21/05 11:54 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

holy moly


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: Dr_Mcgillicuddy]
    #4562141 - 08/21/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i just think its fucked up to give any unsuspecting animal drugs. This is why. What purpose did killing that rat serve, just to see what would happen? People never fail to amaze me and disgust me at the same time.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: coda]
    #4562159 - 08/21/05 12:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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i just think its fucked up to give any unsuspecting animal drugs. This is why. What purpose did killing that rat serve, just to see what would happen? People never fail to amaze me and disgust me at the same time.




I second that statement. but my dogs ask to toke...


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: PsychosMind]
    #4562210 - 08/21/05 12:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I've given white mice cubies and they were fine. I had a whole bunch of them and would toss in a dried mushie every once in a while. They would all fight for it every time. They'd each take a few bites not eat any more then go off and look like they were spaced out. I definetly never killed any, never seemed like they had any problems. Sadley I don't have the mice anymore, they all passed on with old age. I got them when they were rescued from a high school prank.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: PsychosMind]
    #4562218 - 08/21/05 12:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe he gave up his ego while tripping on a level 5.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: I2ancid]
    #4562237 - 08/21/05 12:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

most animals don't have ego problems, unlike us.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: ShroomKillabrew]
    #4562329 - 08/21/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Thats fucked up...kick your bro's friend for me. The rat probably freaked out and had a heart attack or something.


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: Ramuh]
    #4562363 - 08/21/05 01:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Ramuh said:
The LD50 for psilocybin in rats is 280mg/kg (LD50 means the dosage it takes to kill 50% of the subjects, obviously done on rats and such).

So...280mg is .28g if Im not mistaken. Assuming the scale could possibly be inaccurate to the point of the dose he gave the rat being 150mg, this would mean that a .5kg rat or less probably would've had a good chance of dying from that dose, yes.

Someone correct my math if I'm wrong please.




150mg of mushrooms is not the same as 150mg of psilocybin. 150mg of psilocybin is about equal to 150g of fresh Cubensis.

edit: calc error.


Edited by Annom (08/22/05 01:48 AM)


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: coda]
    #4562372 - 08/21/05 01:31 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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i just think its fucked up to give any unsuspecting animal drugs. This is why. What purpose did killing that rat serve, just to see what would happen? People never fail to amaze me and disgust me at the same time.




I do agree that it is not cool to give drugs to a animal just for fun, but I don't care that much about a rat.

Do you eat meat?

Do you think the rat had a good life in his little cage at the pet store?


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #4562716 - 08/21/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Thats fucked up...kick your bro's friend for me. The rat probably freaked out and had a heart attack or something.




Its just a rat... i think we should kick the corrupt governments of the world that create suffering, starvation, torture, poverty, and death to our fellow humans... in the arse.

Just a stinky ol' rat....  I'm not saying that what the kid did was justified, if he knew the rat would die then he probably wouldnt of done it.  Or would he?  :ooo:


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #4562730 - 08/21/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

yel, but rats are pretty damn smart, they can remember how to get out of a maze, most of my co-workers cant do that. LOL


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: ShroomKillabrew]
    #4562736 - 08/21/05 03:30 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Never mind the LD50 for humans is 1680 grams of dried mushrooms. That's 3.69 pounds of dried shrooms. It would be impossible for a human to die from shrooms.




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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: rod]
    #4562762 - 08/21/05 03:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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yel, but rats are pretty damn smart, they can remember how to get out of a maze, most of my co-workers cant do that. LOL




They just have a keen sense of smell for cheese. dumbass.  :grin:


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #4562774 - 08/21/05 03:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Animals like to get high...they just don't know how.

Its very easy to turn a housepet into a pothead...


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Re: Rat killed from shrooms? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #4562796 - 08/21/05 03:43 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

How impressive is it to remember a path. So what we proved the moust almost has half a brain. Giving hte rodent some shrooms wasnt hte greatest idea but he probley didnt shove it down the creatures throat. He also didnt give it a large dose.
Its not half as bad as what labs do thousands of times a day.


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