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Offlinebob_smith93456
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Casing questions
    #4561494 - 08/21/05 02:30 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

I've just done my first casing. I had a foil pan that is 8" x 8" x 2 1/2". I took 3 jars and crumbled them all into the bottom of the pan. I think it was about an inch, maybe 1 1/2". Then I took some 50/50+ and put a 1/2" layer over the top. Covered it with two layers of foil and poked a few holes in it, then put it away. Did I do that right?

I've got 7 more jars. How should I do them? Should I get bigger pans? What do you guys use? Also, what's the suggested temp to keep the casing at (for the 3 days)?


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561524 - 08/21/05 02:40 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Use tubs if you wanna do it bigger


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561535 - 08/21/05 02:43 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

sounds like you did alright.

case them, fruit them as cakes, or imo spawn to h poo.

cased brf cakes, incubate at the same temp as jar colonization. for spawn to poo, room temp is fine as the poo creates alot more heat as it colonizes.
i have been using 8"x13 1/2"x4" lasagna pans. work good so far but i think i am going to switch to some kind of a plastic tub because of the damage caused to the tin pans.
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Re: Casing questions [Re: backupwards]
    #4561582 - 08/21/05 03:02 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

how many jars do you use with the lasagna pan?


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561595 - 08/21/05 03:08 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

i am spawning to poo in those pans, i have been using 2 pints per pan and am getting really good colonization times,3-5 days and they are pretty much 100%. then cased with the 50/50+ tek.
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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561618 - 08/21/05 03:20 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

bob_smith93456 said:
how many jars do you use with the lasagna pan?



Id do 8 1/2 pinters in that size pan :mushroom2:


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561632 - 08/21/05 03:24 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Right on. I've got serious access to cow poo. What do you mean when you say "spawn to"? Does that mean mix a crumbled PF jar in with the poo? Then once it's colonized add casing to it? How much better is it? I know cubies normally grow in the wild on cow poo (we used to pick them all the time). (sorry for the noob question)


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561637 - 08/21/05 03:29 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Noob questions are how you learn my friend ...Read the teks so you can understand what we do here BTW you are rated dude :thumbup:


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561649 - 08/21/05 03:34 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Be careful there. You said the :sleepingcow: word. They dont like the :sleepingcow: word. They only believe in using horse poo.:glittershitz:


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561654 - 08/21/05 03:36 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

no reason to be sorry bro, we were all noobs to this at one point in time, hell i am still a noob as well.
yes crumbling and mixing it with the poo is called spawning. cow poo in nature has a totally different relationship with the myc than it does indoors. the myc is already colonized underground outdoors, cow shits on top of it, the myc gets the nutes colonizing into the poo and then fruits from it.
cow poo is not the best because it lacks the fiber that h poo has to help keep it light and fluffy. you could mix some chopped straw and vermiculite with the cow poo to lighten it up some. i would try and go with h poo if you can though, lots of it around for the scooping.
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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561658 - 08/21/05 03:37 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Thanks for the rating.  I'm still working on the teks, I've read all the noob teks, now i'm reading the bulk guides, then to the agar guides.  Actually, I read a whole lot of teks, but there's a lot of reading to be done here :smile:.  Anyway, thanks for the help.


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Re: Casing questions [Re: backupwards]
    #4561659 - 08/21/05 03:38 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

really that much spawn for a pan that size alo, that is twice as much as i have been using. getting good colonization times too, any real diff you think?
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Re: Casing questions [Re: backupwards]
    #4561662 - 08/21/05 03:42 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

I thought the ratio should be 4:1.  I was just trying to stick to that.  Should I have used less?  I've gotta check out the h poo thing (guess c poo is not as good :frown: ) ... I've got about 5 days till the rest of my jars are ready.


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4561684 - 08/21/05 03:56 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

i haven't ever measured the spawn to poo ratio. i have just broken up what looked to be good and gone with it. 2 pints in those pans gives a nice even distribution of the spawn throughout the poo, at least imo.

sure the recommended is a 4:1 or 5:1 something along those lines.

5 days would give you plenty of time to get some good weathered poo and get it ready to use.
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Re: Casing questions [Re: backupwards]
    #4563320 - 08/21/05 06:07 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

After casing the trays you can return them to the incubator (82-84F.)
Read my pinning strategy to answer some of the questions you haven't thought of yet. If followed you'll be guaranteed success first time around. GL


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Re: Casing questions [Re: hyphae]
    #4563639 - 08/21/05 07:32 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

What's better poo or staw? I just don't think I'm going to enjoy playing around with poo, then having it smelling up my house.


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4563689 - 08/21/05 07:43 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

You'll want to use aged (1yr.) manure which isn't that bad at all. Straw will produce less flushes, if I were you I'd do grain casings first, rye is awesome BTW. GL


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Re: Casing questions [Re: hyphae]
    #4565408 - 08/22/05 02:22 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Alright, I'll give rye a try, how much do you use?


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Re: Casing questions [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4566031 - 08/22/05 11:10 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

About 300lbs. a year (as spawn) :wink: You'll have to read a few rye teks before picking one to use. GL


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