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OfflineDemonaicBlessing
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Is Salvia worth it ?
    #4559245 - 08/20/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I bought some Salvia from a shop here in England last week, and smoked a few bowls. I think I got a ten-second headrush, but little else happened. The packaging indicated lacked any indication of the application of an extraction technique (I.E. It wasn't some of the 5X, 20X, 40X series).

Given this, is it worth buying some 20X or 40X from a popular UK website ?


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: DemonaicBlessing]
    #4559297 - 08/20/05 03:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'd suggest reading up on it more to learn how to properly take it. I've done it twice with nada really. Now I think I could do it right but don't feel like it. I'd suggest trying some 5x or 10x but making sure doing it right. For example I believe a torch is needed to burn it and you inhale while burning I believe,also hold in smoke a good 30 seconds possibly? Double check all that info I know there are readily availible documents found with google.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: Blank_Generation]
    #4559372 - 08/20/05 04:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Salvia is a wonderous thing it usualy shows us our inner selves or what we need to do with our lives.. but not for all peoples does it do this. It's a very unique experience like no other. Goto Sage Wisdom for smoking techniques and information regarding salvia. I smoked for 4 days plain leaf with no effects other than salvia gravity for 5 minutes or longer. I concluded that I needed an extract, which hopefully will do the trick I just recently extracted some 6x with acetone and 5x with iso. alcohol 99% i'll try the 5x then the 6x. If nothing happens i'll buy a little more salvia leaves and make a huge load of extraction 15x or 20x using further refinement, which takes days and even a whole week lol.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: DemonaicBlessing]
    #4559421 - 08/20/05 04:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Salvia can be:

-Bollocks if you do it wrong
-The most horrible thing in your life if you do it wrong

-One of the best, most rewarding visionary plants if you do it right.

Personally I recommend the chewing method


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: Asante]
    #4559495 - 08/20/05 04:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Well theres the site sagewisdom to tell you how to doit "right" and if you have a bad experience you werent ready or prepared. Respect salvia and it will respect you back by showing you how great Salvia can be.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: DemonaicBlessing]
    #4559610 - 08/20/05 04:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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DemonaicBlessing said:
I bought some Salvia from a shop here in England last week, and smoked a few bowls. I think I got a ten-second headrush, but little else happened. The packaging indicated lacked any indication of the application of an extraction technique (I.E. It wasn't some of the 5X, 20X, 40X series).

Given this, is it worth buying some 20X or 40X from a popular UK website ?




It's how you're smoking it that's the problem. 20x is EXTREMELY concentrated, and I've never even heard of 40x. That would be way too much. You can get very good results with 10x. Make sure you're burning it with intense heat. Hold the lighter on it the whole time. It has a much higher vap point than cannabis.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: Jabbawaya]
    #4559646 - 08/20/05 05:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Jabbawaya got it nailed: don't go over 10x, its just right to get you anywhere you want if you are of average sensitivity.

I myself use 1/50-1/25gr of salvia 10x in a keychain pipe with a throwaway lighter.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: Asante]
    #4559717 - 08/20/05 05:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

1/50 of gram ? How do you actually measure that?!

Yes, I've looked at the literature and compiled a list of things to bear in mind when planning to smoke it next.



Salvinorin A is rapidly metabolized, so the full dose must be ingested within two to three minutes.
Cooling devices can be used, and are indeed useful.
The full dose should be inhaled in three big inhalations, each held for 30 seconds.
Pauses between inhalations should be minimal.
The Salvia must be in contact with the light at all time during inhalation, due to the high temperatures needed to vaporise the Salvinorin A.
Use a torch-lighter.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: DemonaicBlessing]
    #4559904 - 08/20/05 06:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i dont bother with salvia. ive never gotten anything off of it. much too pricey also...money that could be spent on bud instead.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: krishnamurti]
    #4559917 - 08/20/05 06:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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i dont bother with salvia. ive never gotten anything off of it. much too pricey also...money that could be spent on bud instead.




did u smoke it??? or wha? Torch Lighter?

And Where did u get the Salvia???


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #4559941 - 08/20/05 06:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

smoked 2-3 blunts of it with some friends. think i hit up from a pipe too. the shit burned up 2-3 times faster than weed. and i got nothing off of it.

no idea where they got it from. probably the local headshop.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: krishnamurti]
    #4559983 - 08/20/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

well I cant Say nothing cuz i havnt tried...

but in order for the Chemical or whatever inside of the salvia to work.... it needs HIGH temp's and a Concentrated hoot!~

so a joint wouldnt do it..... :crazy:

A pipe could but would need a torch lighter.....

Dont give up on it just yet!!! :grin:

from what i hear it;'s like mushrooms x200 for like 5-10 minutes,..

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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #4559985 - 08/20/05 07:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

oh and you shoulda took big monstrous hoots and held it in...


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #4560014 - 08/20/05 07:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

It really really is worth it ,,,,,, bong toke it ,,, i always use bic lighters never needed a torch ,,,, but u really need to hold it in or it doesnt work .... in my opinion anyways


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: DemonaicBlessing]
    #4560315 - 08/20/05 08:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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1/50 of gram ? How do you actually measure that?!





Scales that are accurate beyond 1/100 gram ^_^
If I take several minutes for a proper measurement i can go to 1/200gr accuracy. I routinely use it for 1/50-1gr measurements.

Once you got the measurements right S10x allows you to eyeball. My salvia 10x is 1/50gr if you plug my keychain pipe 1/2 full just right.
My tiny keychain pipes are very forgiving: impossible to plug an OD into them (on 10x) which helps if you're already inebriated.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: Asante]
    #4560838 - 08/20/05 11:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i wont give up on salvia. its just not appealing to me cause weed is way better. and with the high price of it and all... its right above legal bud on krish's Drugs To-Do List :wink:

i dunno, maybe i just hate it cause its legal and marijuana isnt. sort of makes me feel shitty about the state of things.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: krishnamurti]
    #4560851 - 08/20/05 11:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Legality has nothing to do with anything. You obviously haven't ever experienced salvia if you are trying to compare it to weed. Once you smoke some good sally you will know what Im talking about.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4561169 - 08/21/05 12:57 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

legality does have to do with that i would rather be able to hit up my local headshop and check out their latest weed selection rather than seeing overpriced little baggies of salvia.

with all this fuss over it, maybe one day ill get a 20x sack and see where it takes me. but as for now it is definitely not a top priority.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: krishnamurti]
    #4561735 - 08/21/05 04:33 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Have you ever been sucked up in a vortex and been taken by it?

Have you ever swam in a river, flowed down a waterfall and became one with a forest lake on an alien planet?

Have you ever dissolved into the wall and floated towards the ceiling?


Salvia 10x is MUCH MORE like DMT than like marijuana.
Maybe you got the spins one and drew conclusions from it.
Salvia is as valuable as mushrooms, yet different, and every bit as intense.


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Re: Is Salvia worth it ? [Re: DemonaicBlessing]
    #4561773 - 08/21/05 05:24 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Salvia is definatly some crazy shit. When i first hit some, it was just leaf, and i punched 8 bowls in a row without reallt feeling much. Then we got some 20x, and i hit a bowl of that, with a torch lighter but i dont really thing it would make much difference, and it totatly blew me out of this universe. when you do it properly, salvia is insane, totatly brings you to another place, but not praticularly fun, just really nuts and different. I recognize the power of that stuff, but i cant manage to "steer" the experiance cause its too over powering, so ive not done it save for the 4 or so times at the beginning.
However, if you do it right, you definatly get a new and intense "drug experiance",


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